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    Why do not all see God?

    Nobody sees God. God is not touched even by imagination. How can we see God? God enters some medium and becomes visible through that medium (through Lord in human form or Son of God). Through that medium also you are experiencing only the existence God. Only experience of existence is possible. There is no way to see God directly. The current cannot be seen directly. When it flows in a wire only its existence can be experienced.

    At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

    Anil Antony

    Universal-Spirituality
    Universal Spirituality for World Peace

  • #2
    Allah(God) is everywhere in hour heart in our breathing in air. You can see Allah(God) everywhere... how else we came into existence. This is all done by Allah(God).
    Quran, Holy Quran and Ramadan

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    • #3
      Allah comes in human form in every generation

      Originally posted by ahmed.zafar View Post
      Allah(God) is everywhere in hour heart in our breathing in air. You can see Allah(God) everywhere... how else we came into existence. This is all done by Allah(God).
      Allah is neither every where nor Allah is awareness; Allah is unimaginable


      We have to cross both the arguments of Allah being every where and Allah being awareness. With the help of scripture, we have to reach the goal, which is unimaginable Allah .

      We are denying the two arguments viz., the argument of awareness being Allah and the argument of the all pervading Allah . We are establishing the argument of unimaginable nature of Allah . The above two arguments are like deep pits existing side by side and we have to travel in the narrow path existing between these two pits to reach the goal of unimaginable nature of Allah .

      Since awareness is the specific work of inert energy in the functioning nervous system and the concept of all pervading Allah does not require the need of any spiritual effort as every one is Allah , the above two pits are to be avoided. These two arguments can be denied by the scripture also. Veda says that Allah is the controller of souls (Atmesvaram…) and this denies that Allah is soul or awareness. Veda also says that nothing and none in this creation is Allah (Neti Neti…) and this denies that Allah is every where in this world. There are several Vedic statements speaking that Allah is unimaginable and even Gita says that no body knows Allah . Like this, we have to escape the danger of falling in the above two pits and reach the true goal of the unimaginable nature of Allah .

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      • #4
        I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

        We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
        Quran, Holy Quran and Ramadan

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ahmed.zafar View Post
          I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

          We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
          Allah is every where in an unimaginable way. Allah cannot be defined by spatial dimensions and His existence is different from existence of worldly items. He is every where not in worldly sense. In an unimaginable way He is every where. That do not mean that GOd is in every thing. God is everywhere in a way which cannot be measurable.

          But God is in the human incarnation. God exists in the present human incarnation who is alive in this world. The identity mark for this is that He preaches wonderful divine knowledge. True divine knowledge is the proof that God is in human form.

          God do not exists in worldly things like hill etc. If GOD existed in them then they would have preached divine knowledge to us. God exists alone with awareness only. Means God only exists in living human beings. Since it is beneficial for all the people in the world so that they can listen the preaching of human incarnation of GOd.

          God exists in human incarnation who has come to this world now.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ahmed.zafar View Post
            I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

            We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
            Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

            Yes, Allah is the source of everything. But Allah is only in human incarnation. Allah has not pervaded all the universe. Allah created this universe for HIs own entertainment. If Allah and universe are one and the same How Allah can get entertainment by seeing the universe? Hence Allah has not pervaded the universe. But He enters into the universe in Human form so that we can see Him, talk to Him, touch Him and co-live with Him and more importanly Allah can now preach us and talk to us in a most natural way.

            Allah is not peravding the entire universe. Allah is the base of this universe. Allah created this universe. Allah has not pervaded the universe. Creation and creator are different. Allah enters into the universe by entering His most deserving devotee known as Son of God for preaching divine knowledge. THe combination of Son of God and God is known as Human incarnation. Human incarnation is a 2-in-1 system in which Son of God and Allah exists in the same human body. It is like current in a live wire.

            Allah comes in human form so that we can approach Him without any tension and fear and clarify all our doubts.
            Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

            If God is the creation itself, again God becomes alone and cannot have any entertainment. For entertainment only, He wanted a second item, which must be different from Him (Sadviteeyamaichchat). The support is quite different from the supported item. You cannot say that both are one and the same. Entertainment is of two types. In the first type, you see the drama from outside. In the second type, you enter the drama in a role and entertain yourself. While acting in a role, you are also seeing the entire drama. If you are the single actor and become everything in the drama, you cannot have any entertainment. If you become everything, there is no possibility of entering the drama. Veda says that God entered the creation (Tat Srustva Tadevaanu Praavishat).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dattaswami View Post
              Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

              Yes, Allah is the source of everything. But Allah is only in human incarnation. Allah has not pervaded all the universe. Allah created this universe for HIs own entertainment. If Allah and universe are one and the same How Allah can get entertainment by seeing the universe? Hence Allah has not pervaded the universe. But He enters into the universe in Human form so that we can see Him, talk to Him, touch Him and co-live with Him and more importantly Allah can now preach us and talk to us in a most natural way.
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              Have you meet Allah in Human form??? Only one Person has seen Allah For Whom this universe is created. not a single angel has seen Allah. And Allah is everywhere means that Allah know everything in the universe Allah is aware of every human living in this world and Allah knows Every thing in our mind no matter how hard we try to hide it. Allah knows when and how we have done sins and on the day of judgment every sin will be revealed in front of everyone and you wont be able to hide it.
              Quran, Holy Quran and Ramadan

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ahmed.zafar View Post
                Have you meet Allah in Human form??? Only one Person has seen Allah For Whom this universe is created. not a single angel has seen Allah. And Allah is everywhere means that Allah know everything in the universe Allah is aware of every human living in this world and Allah knows Every thing in our mind no matter how hard we try to hide it. Allah knows when and how we have done sins and on the day of judgment every sin will be revealed in front of everyone and you wont be able to hide it.
                Allah cannot be seen directly. But Allah who comes in human form can be seen. I have seen Allah in human form who is present now in this world.

                See this link you can see Him there: Universal-Spirituality

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dattaswami View Post
                  Allah cannot be seen directly. But Allah who comes in human form can be seen. I have seen Allah in human form who is present now in this world.

                  See this link you can see Him there: Universal-Spirituality
                  How can you say that He is a Allah in human form???
                  Quran, Holy Quran and Ramadan

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                  • #10
                    God in Human Form

                    I think you see the spirit of Allah in human form from people who express what they beleive Allah would want them to do. Not actually Allah in human form. Maybe Allah chooses people to express how he wants people to be.There are willing people and then there are people who just do not understand. YOU REALLY CAN SEE THIS.
                    "WitchQueen"
                    What can you do to compare to the Rain?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ahmed.zafar View Post
                      How can you say that He is a Allah in human form???
                      Yes very good question.

                      The identity mark of Allah in human form is that He preaches wonderful divine knowledge, which ordinary human beings cannot preach at all!

                      The real characteristic properties of the Lord as declared by Veda are the Special Knowledge (Prajnana), the Love (Rasa or Prema) and the Bliss (Ananda). Veda also says that these three characteristics must be experienced by others if the possessor is having really those characteristics. The characteristic property of the fire is heat. Any person who is near the fire should experience the heat and then only we can say that the fire is hot. Similarly the Lord in human form must make others to experience the Jnana, Prema and Ananda. Veda says ‘Esha Hyeva Anandayati’, which means that He creates Bliss in the hearts of others. The Lord should not be recognized merely by the miracles because even demons performed these miracles. Miracles are only associated property like jewels.

                      Moreover the Lord in human form always hesitates to perform the miracles unless special emergency arises. The reason for this is that the Lord is dwelling in the human form, which is a product of this nature (Prakrithi). He is living in the nature. Therefore the Lord follows the rules of the nature and these rules were formulated by Himself only. No administrator will like to contradict his own rules. Even in the emergency when He voilates the rule of the nature, He keeps the voilation as a secret. When the administrator voilates his own rule, he will not propagate about that voilation. He maintains the secrecy of the voilation. Only demons voilate frequently the rules of the nature and also advertise about the voilation because they did not frame the rules. When Lord Krishna made artificial sunset by covering the Sun with His Sudarshana Chakra, He kept it as a secret. People thought that a cloud covered the Sun. Voilating His own rule itself is a mistake.

                      Exhibition of voilation of His own rule by Himself will be another mistake. In that situation the life of Arjuna who was His closest devotee was under threat. In that emergency only the Lord voilated the Prakrithi and used His super power (Maya). In the eighteen days of Mahabharatha war He never used His super power. Bhishma wounded the Lord with severe arrows. Even then the Lord did not use His super power. Therefore miracles are not the real characteristics of the Lord. Rama never performed miracles except in the case of ‘Ahalya’ and in breaking the bow of Siva. Krishna also performed the miracles in the child hood to save His own life and to save the lives of His devotees. All these situations were the cases of unavoidable emergency.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WitchQueen View Post
                        I think you see the spirit of Allah in human form from people who express what they beleive Allah would want them to do. Not actually Allah in human form. Maybe Allah chooses people to express how he wants people to be.There are willing people and then there are people who just do not understand. YOU REALLY CAN SEE THIS.
                        That is not correct. Allah is not in every human being. Allah select a human being who is very dear to Allah known as Son of God and comes to this world in human form. Why Allah comes here? Becasue Allah alone knows Allah and Allah alone can preach about Allah, no body else. To fulfil this tremendous task of uplifting us through His wonderful divine knowledge He comes down in Human form.

                        Why He is in human form?

                        Because if He speaks from heaven then tension and anxiety will be created among peoples and they will not listen to HIm due to fear. Hence God comes in human form like an ordinary human being and will have all the property of a human being like hunger, sleep etc. This is only for the benefit of His devotees who wish to see Him, touch Him and co-live with Him. They can come near to Allah and clarify all their doubts without any tension. For this very purpose Allah comes in human form.

                        He is the right authority in this world for preaching and uplifting others. You must listen Him right now.

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                        • #13
                          All your topics in this section are just misguidance and deviation of the correct path, those who want to know about islam and learn more about Allaah should read the Qur'aan first and read it's explanation, one i would recommend is the easy to read tafsir as-Sa'di if you know arabic, but it is not translated yet in the english language. You can also read tafsir ibn kathir, wich is also very good, but for starters i would recommend tafsir as-Sa'di. And after that study the books on islamic creed like al-Aqeedah al-Waasitiyyah, Kitaab at-Tawheed, Usuul ath-Thalaatha etc. Surah al-Ikhlaas alone refutes the belief that Allaah would be a human being, let alone the refutations in the Qur'aan against the christians who said Jesus is God. Read the Qur'aan people.
                          Ibn ‘Uthaymin: “If the Muslims want strength, power and honour, then only one thing is required: That they stick to the ‘aqîdah (creed) of the Salaf, (their kind of) worship, charachter…” (Fhm 2) Learn Arabic and study islam from great scholars like Ibn Taymiyya, ibn Kathir, ibn al-Qayyim, ibn 'Uthaymeen, al-Albani, bin baz, Muqbil, Saalih al-Fawzaan etc. buy their books on islamic creed, history etc. and read the tafsir of as-Sa'di. Learn Arabic http://www.learnarabic.com/

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                          • #14
                            Here a part of the qur'aan so everyone can listen to it.

                            Surah Maryam (Mary) - the "chapter" about mary the mother of jesus or 'isa as we muslims say.
                            Surah Maryam (Mary)-SUBHANALLAH!!!! - YouTube

                            A most AMAZING recitation of the Surah (Chapter in the Quran) Maryam by a young Muslim brother
                            In the Quran, the literal unchanged Word of Allah, (and what speech or statement can be truer?!) there is related the story of Prophet Jesus and his mother Mary. Jesus (peace be upon him) says I am a slave and Prophet of Allah, and nothing else!!! Far Above is Allah from having a son, wife or partner!!!
                            Ibn ‘Uthaymin: “If the Muslims want strength, power and honour, then only one thing is required: That they stick to the ‘aqîdah (creed) of the Salaf, (their kind of) worship, charachter…” (Fhm 2) Learn Arabic and study islam from great scholars like Ibn Taymiyya, ibn Kathir, ibn al-Qayyim, ibn 'Uthaymeen, al-Albani, bin baz, Muqbil, Saalih al-Fawzaan etc. buy their books on islamic creed, history etc. and read the tafsir of as-Sa'di. Learn Arabic http://www.learnarabic.com/

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                            • #15
                              I saw God really long time ago and even though I became Catholic first I never believer God had mortal wife ever. When I read Quran I thought if I had know this first I probably would have become Muslim instead but things had to happen in the order that they did.
                              "WitchQueen"
                              What can you do to compare to the Rain?

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