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Old 18th June 2005, 09:37
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Bismillah ir-rahmaan ir-raheem
Aoodthu Billahi min ash shaytaan ir-rajeem
Allahumma salli ala nabi Muhammed

“And the male is not like the female”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:36]

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

This word – equality – which many thinkers in both the east and the west advocate in various fields of life is a word which is based on deviation and a lack of understanding, especially when the speaker attributes this idea of equality to the Qur’aan and to Islam.

One of the things that people misunderstand is when they say that “Islam is the religion of equality”. What they should say is that Islam is the religion of justice.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Here we should note that there are some people who speak of equality instead of justice, and this is a mistake. We should not say equality, because equality implies no differentiation between the two. Because of this unjust call for equality, they started to ask, what is the difference between male and female?’ So they made males and females the same, and then the communists said, ‘What difference is there between ruler and subject? No one has any authority over anyone else, not even fathers and sons; the father has no authority over his son,’ and so on.

But if we say justice, which means giving each one that to which he or she is entitled, this misunderstanding no longer applies, and the word used is correct. Hence it does not say in the Qur’aan that Allaah enjoins equality, rather it says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, Allaah enjoins Al‑‘Adl (i.e. justice)”

[al-Nahl 16:90]

“and that when you judge between men, you judge with justice”

[al-Nisa’ 4:58]

Those who say that Islam is the religion of equality are lying against Islam. Rather Islam is the religion of justice which means treating equally those who are equal and differentiating between those who are different.

No one who knows the religion of Islam would say that it is the religion of equality. Rather what shows you that this principle is false is the fact that most of what is mentioned in the Qur’aan denies equality, as in the following verses:

‘Say: Are those who know equal to those who know not?”

[al-Zumar 39:9]

‘Say: Is the blind equal to the one who sees? Or darkness equal to light?’

[al-Ra’d 13:16]

‘Not equal among you are those who spent and fought before the conquering (of Makkah, with those among you who did so later’

[al-Hadeed 57:10]

‘Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allaah with their wealth and their live’

[al-Nisa’ 4:95]

Not one single letter in the Qur’aan enjoins equality, rather it enjoins justice. You will also find that the word justice is acceptable to people, for I feel that if I am better than this man in terms of knowledge, or wealth, or piety, or in doing good, I would not like for him to be equal to me.

Every man knows that he find it unacceptable if we say that the male is equal to the female.”

As-salaamu-laykum;

Men and women are prescribed to behave and act diffrently in many areas of life, such as, clothing, marriage, during prayer so believe and say that men and women are equal is obviously and innovation(bidah).

maroc88:

Are you sure al-Ham is a man? He responds like the women who respond! I can not tell the difference. To much wine perhaps?

Ma-li-ka:

How do you know that I am an American? If I am a fantic then we shall call you the un-pious one(shaytaan?). May be you should try reverting yourself. In fact in Morocco I have no need to desire to marry, I have more then enough offers to marry a Moroccan woman if I so choose. Perhaps you are jealous and wish to mary one too. Finally, as to being Lawerence, my skin complexion will not allow me to pass for a blue-eyed white man so it apperars you are wrong on all accounts and have not a clue about what is going on in my world, yours nor the hereafter.

al-HAM;

Last but least, enough said.

Soubhanna Allah wa bihamdika;
Sheikh Ieeasu Ibn Mhamed

P.S. Find something better to pick besides where I come from and my name. It is getting retarded.



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Old 6th July 2005, 12:29
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we basically believe that men and women should be treated
on equal footing,but obviously women dont hav the will
and strong capability to jump up the opportunities
provided.Her biggest flaw that she is usually conducted
by her emotional side unlike the man who is realistic..
down-to-earth.salam
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Old 12th July 2005, 21:37
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salam all,
does anyone know the difficulties a woman would face in trying to divorce a husband that doesnt want a divorce?
i know you have to prove some sort of negligence on the part of the husband but i heard that even that is hard to prove.

i heard things were getting better but there doesnt seem to be much change in the local courts in morocco.

I'm a guy and i heard that a situation like this can be tough, but i realised i dont actually know for sure.
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Old 12th July 2005, 22:49
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Things are gettin better in Morocco at the expense
of men ..
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Old 12th July 2005, 22:51
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Islamically a woman can ask for the 'right to divorce' PRIOR to marriage. It can put in the marriage contract. So if everyone knows their Islamic rights, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Old 12th July 2005, 22:55
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Yeh right it should not be an issue when both men
and women know their rights and duties..
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Old 13th July 2005, 19:54
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i didnt know that about putting the "get out" clause in the marriage contract,

but who wants to say " I love you now, but just in case i hate you're guts in a few months time, i can drop you like yesterdays rubbish"

gotta be done tho, just to safe guard yourself. Still a Tricky thing to approach tho
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