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Old 22nd August 2005, 09:26
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Also notice that when even outstanding men of God commit errors, they are not immune from God's judgments.

As for Muhammad, he committed many errors, and yet Allah was all the time following his orders without any discipline or judgments. But I guess, not knowing the Bible, Muslims would still think Muhammad was hearing from Allah --- not realizing that Muhammad sometimes make Allah seem ridiculous and an errand boy for the self-appointed rasul of Allah. Muhammad effectively made Allah his servant.

LOL...

Do you still have the nerve to talk about Islam and prophet Mohammed, Theja?

Go and start thinking about the points made above and answer your failures in the first place...You have a task today...

Haven't you still realised the ridiculous situation that you are suffering at the moment? When you feel yourself ready to have a "logic" debate with me that you need to be a mature in the first place, come back, i may reconsider the idea of havig another debate with you...Untill that time comes, you will be only an object of fun for me....

Quran describes your situation very well,

Their parable is like the parable of one who kindled a fire but when it had illumined all around him, Allah took away their light, and left them in utter darkness-- they do not see.

Deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they will not turn back.

Or like abundant rain from the cloud in which is utter darkness and thunder and lightning; they put their fingers into their ears because of the thunder peal, for fear of death, and Allah encompasses the unbelievers.

The lightning almost takes away their sight; whenever it shines on them they walk in it, and when it becomes dark to them they stand still; and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have taken away their hearing and their sight; surely Allah has power over all things. (Chapter : 002, Verses: 17-20)




Have a nice day...
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Old 22nd August 2005, 10:08
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It would be very enlightening if any Muslim could tell us who this Shuaib really is.

Did he live during the time of Lot? or,

Was he a contemporary of Moses? or,

Where did he live and what race he belongs? Was he an Arab?
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Old 22nd August 2005, 16:58
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Theja,

are you ok or ko today?
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Old 24th August 2005, 10:28
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Who really is Shuaib in the magnificient Koran?
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Old 24th August 2005, 10:52
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Who really is Shuaib in the magnificient Koran?

He was a prophet who was sent to the people of Madian, as one of numerous prophets who were sent by God to many different nations in different times during human history...

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Old 24th August 2005, 16:17
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That answer is as vague as the Koran. Where did he live? Was he a contemporary of Lot or Moses?
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Old 25th August 2005, 20:18
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theja,

Prophet Shuaib was sent from Allah to guide his people to the right path and that what matters not where he lived or Social Security card and if he live on wellfare or not. He did not commit any incests nor wrestled God and won the bout. You love to talk about conjoncutres but not the issues and what matters. May Allah guide to His right path.
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