The robe on Jesus...

[Theja]

The Gospels give eyewitness account of the trial of Jesus before religious leaders and the Roman Governor Pilate. Proof beyond a shadow of doubt that the real Jesus (not someone who look like him) went through the ordeal.

Pilate did not find Jesus guilty of death, and looking for an excuse, he discovered that Jesus grew up in Galilee, which district was under Herod. It happened that Herod was visiting Jerusalam at the time.

So between 6-8 am, Pilate sent Jesus to Herod. As a mockery, the curious Herod put a royal robe on Jesus and returned Him to Pilate (Luke 23:6-11).

Writing to the Jews, Matthew report the robe as scarlet. The soldiers put this robe off and on Jesus as they scourged Him. And mocked Him as a king (Matthew 27:27-31).

Both Mark (written with Roman audience in mind) and John (written with general public in mind) report the robe as purple.

The Romans never called Jesus Caesar in their mocking. Instead they called Him king. In those days, as the Romans took dominion over the Greeks (Egypt, Syria, etc) they allowed Greek princes to function as vassal princes: and purple robe was used to identify them.

So even though the robe was scarlet, the Romans made do and mocked Jesus as though He was a vassal prince, in which case the term purple would be used. Since Mark and John had non-Jewish audience in mind, they went along with the vocabulary of the soldiers in calling the robe purple.

Anyway, had one of them said black, or green, or yellow, the discrepancy would be obvious. But between scarlet and purple, the choice of word to reflect the mindset of the people is only a minor adjustment. The major points are that there was a robe put on Jesus, and that He stood before Pilate, Herod, and a hostile group of religious leaders.

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When someone is crucified, his crime is posted on the cross. Pilate went so far as posting a mocking of Jesus on His cross, which said: THE KING OF THE JEWS.

The inscription was in three languages (John 19:19-20) ---

LATIN: the official language of the Roman Empire;

HEBREW: the sacred language of religious faith and scripture;

GREEK: the common language, as well as the literate and universal language of the Roman world.

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So even in His trial and crucifixion, Jesus was accorded royal robe, and publication in the three most important languages of the time.

Isaiah 53.

[Theja]

Where did Jesus part from the disciples?

[Theja]

I just realized that you are not willing to learn and are not ready to learn.

I just answered one of your questions, and you come back with all this rambling about what you think.

I still think razrif do have a point.

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I guess Jesus never used the word 'disciple' because English was not spoken in Judea then (hehehe), but He did call them to follow Him and learn from Him. Translated, I consider that discipleship.

[Theja]

bravo adonis..... you display flashes of brilliance at times, but it is your arrogance that gets in the way.

It is foolish to suggest that the Greek New Testament did not employ the term 'mathetes' to mean a learner, pupil, disciple.

Concerning your harping of the Latin term, it is a translation of the same word, and the Catholic Church then or today has every right to employ the term without changing the meaning of mathetes. You're only splitting hair to insert your opinion as though you have the corner on the truth.

--- follower of Christ, pupil, learner, disciple of Christ ---

I notice your inability to accept facts as facts. You have a tendency to disregard what others say and veer off to your own rambling of things lurking in your head even if it distracts from the topic at hand.

Well, even if you are unwilling to learn from others, I hope some fair-minded visitors will benefit from what is discussed here.

(What's in your wallet? hehehe....)

[Theja]

Your condescending attitude, verbal gymnastics, and unsolicited lecture is getting stale. Thanks for digging the Greek terms, but you said nothing new to John 14:6 to enlighten Dehia from what she already knows

I am truly amused by the thought that you teach Christianity in your spare time. Considering your gross error on Nazareth, I guess the content of your lessons are filled with irrelevant opinions far removed from true spirituality and reality. You pretend as though you could change history and geography based on your faulty research. Seriously, your credibility has been greatly harmed by your childish knowledge of Nazareth --- it kind of indicate that you're so full of your opinion to the detriment of learning from historical facts.

I am guessing if you are into the New Age thing. You seem to twist scripture into something else to fit your style of thinking.

[Theja]

You are welcome to the grandios claim of your imagination -- so long as you don't physically harm yourself or people around you.

[Theja]

You 'feign' interest in the story of Jesus, and still when I entertain you with answer, you have determined 'never' to admit to anything, evidenced by your summary dismissal of the New Testament documents.

So I have to station you to a pigpen until your frame of mind wakes up to your biased heart and determined to correct it in the effort to seek truth.

"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces" (Matthew 7:6).