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Old 30th December 2004, 17:55
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No, I'm not insinuating anything. Since I have no information on how the rich Islamic countries are reaching out on the Somalia and Sudan crisis, I am curious if someone here at Morocco.com will have better knowledge.

In times like these, I just think it reasonable to expect Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Libya, UAE, and the like to be doing something generous to really help these poor and destitude people who have similar faith to theirs.
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Yes, America do have homeless people: (1) Some are mentally imbalanced that they cannot maintain a home even if they get help. (2) Some are alcoholics and drug addicts who prefer to remain that way (homeless and roaming). (3) Strangely, a few chose to live homeless.

All these people get monthly checks from the government and that is why they can remain that way if they don't care about decency and dignity. Perhaps they don't care anymore.

Also there is a group of people who get temporarily homeless, but receive rehabilitation or job training and get off the streets after some time.

There are shelters for the homeless and many of the the people go to sleep through the night, get showers (if they like), and breakfast. In some areas the facilities are so stretched that the homeless are given help by priorities.
I’m sure you did not insinuate anything, how silly of me to have dared to think so. I am an American so there no need for you to go on explaining how things are around here. You are trying to paint a false picture implying that most of the cases you presented seem to have ended on the street despite help from the government, which we all know is not true. Many people do get help but thousands are left behind. The government does not take care of all of them. I live here; I know the facts.

There's an urban housing crisis and many people end up experiencing a rent squeeze. They pay rent that exceeds the government definition of affordable housing. Consequently over half of their income is devoted to rent and since the demand for low income housing exceeds the supply the cost of low cost rent increases. These people still have to eat, go to work, school and have some type of healthcare. So what do you think happens after a medical emergency or sudden unemployment?? Homelessness.

The affordable housing crisis is taking an increasing toll. On any given night, some 750,000 people are homeless; many more are “hidden homeless”, missed in varied counts. Over the course of a year, some 2 million people experience homelessness fro some period of time. More than one third of the homeless are families with children. (Collins, Leondar-Wright, and Sklar, 1999:38)

Statistics estimate that there are more than 100,000 homeless people in NY, 90,000 in LA and as many as 75,000 in Chicago to cite a few major cities

Are you sure all these people receive a check from the government?? Because if you truly believe that , I doubt you actually live in the USA.
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Old 30th December 2004, 18:31
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welcome to america the land of satanic light
LATER HE WILL DREAM ABOUT HIS JUNGLE
wait and see
If you have no comments about the subject of the thread, then refrain from posting ridiculous comments. America is not the land of satanic light.
it is the land of satanic light
you double faces bro..
it is satanic and very satanic and if you see it not than i suggest you check yourself with brother T
HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT SATAN.
HOW IS IT SATANIC ?
THE LIGHT ...NOT GOD'S LIGHT
THE 24/7 LIGHT OF ALCOHOLIC CLUBING AND STRIP CLUB
THAT IS NOT SATANIC LIGHT???
PLUS STOP ACTING LIKE MR ALL KNOWING , YOU MAY BE NOT RIDICULOUS BUT YOU HAVE SOME EGO AKHY ...
AMERICA IS MORE SATANIC IN HER NIGHT LIFE THAN NO WHERE IN THE WORLD ...
ABOUT YOUR HOMLESS AND FEEDING THE HUNGRY
YOU ARE THE ONE BEING RIDICULOUS..
WELL AMERICA FEEDS YOU AND YOU MUSLIM FELLOWS IN THIS MATTER
SO YOU ARE WRONG ...DEAD WRONG .
TAKE CARE.
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Old 30th December 2004, 18:37
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No, I'm not insinuating anything. Since I have no information on how the rich Islamic countries are reaching out on the Somalia and Sudan crisis, I am curious if someone here at Morocco.com will have better knowledge.

In times like these, I just think it reasonable to expect Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Libya, UAE, and the like to be doing something generous to really help these poor and destitude people who have similar faith to theirs.
_________________________________________

Yes, America do have homeless people: (1) Some are mentally imbalanced that they cannot maintain a home even if they get help. (2) Some are alcoholics and drug addicts who prefer to remain that way (homeless and roaming). (3) Strangely, a few chose to live homeless.

All these people get monthly checks from the government and that is why they can remain that way if they don't care about decency and dignity. Perhaps they don't care anymore.

Also there is a group of people who get temporarily homeless, but receive rehabilitation or job training and get off the streets after some time.

There are shelters for the homeless and many of the the people go to sleep through the night, get showers (if they like), and breakfast. In some areas the facilities are so stretched that the homeless are given help by priorities.
I’m sure you did not insinuate anything, how silly of me to have dared to think so. I am an American so there no need for you to go on explaining how things are around here. You are trying to paint a false picture implying that most of the cases you presented seem to have ended on the street despite help from the government, which we all know is not true. Many people do get help but thousands are left behind. The government does not take care of all of them. I live here; I know the facts.

There's an urban housing crisis and many people end up experiencing a rent squeeze. They pay rent that exceeds the government definition of affordable housing. Consequently over half of their income is devoted to rent and since the demand for low income housing exceeds the supply the cost of low cost rent increases. These people still have to eat, go to work, school and have some type of healthcare. So what do you think happens after a medical emergency or sudden unemployment?? Homelessness.

The affordable housing crisis is taking an increasing toll. On any given night, some 750,000 people are homeless; many more are “hidden homeless”, missed in varied counts. Over the course of a year, some 2 million people experience homelessness fro some period of time. More than one third of the homeless are families with children. (Collins, Leondar-Wright, and Sklar, 1999:38)

Statistics estimate that there are more than 100,000 homeless people in NY, 90,000 in LA and as many as 75,000 in Chicago to cite a few major cities

Are you sure all these people receive a check from the government?? Because if you truly believe that , I doubt you actually live in the USA.
THEY CAN GET A JOB IF THEY WANT TO...
PLUS THERE ARE PLENTY SHELTERS TO FEED THEM
UNLIKE YOUR SICK MUSLIM MOSQUES WHO KICK THEM OUT AND CALL THEM KAFFIRS ..OR TROUBLED MUSLIMS..so they desreve no help
as for the charity money that goes to the pockets of your leaders ...unless you are one of them...
you should of kept your mouth shut !!!
about the satanic light in america...
and americans and all the world realises this
that drinking in the satanic night light life is deadly
so there is no offence on what i say..
unlike you who is trying to offend theja by the homless plp
well tell him where are you from first of all
and im sure he can post terrifying fotos as well ..
but no he rather search and debate ...he is a noble kaffir
unlike you a hypocrit selfish ..all knowing freak.
ahh you are AMERICAN MUSLIM AND LOYAL TO THE BUSH
you are like allahu akbar im joining the us army in iraq
allahu akbar i follow orders ..
allahu akbar i did my job killing muslims ..
yes my community gived me fatwa that i should fight for my land..and america is also muslim..sadddam is dictator
killing ..killing is good ...kill muslims
and learn islam so you can make america muslim
how sick you are in america ..
how sick communities you are !!!
damn sick
you won't reach 1^percent of the christian good work despite they steel and eat diffrent from the poor
you eat the same food with the poor in the table and your fridge are stocked with food ... very sad very sad very sad.
i hope you realise what i say is true..
im not giving theja credit over you
but you should not defend the satanic light !!!! never!

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
THE TRUTH HAVE NO COLOR BRO
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Old 30th December 2004, 18:57
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it is the land of satanic light
you double faces bro..
it is satanic and very satanic and if you see it not than i suggest you check yourself with brother T
HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT SATAN.
HOW IS IT SATANIC ?
THE LIGHT ...NOT GOD'S LIGHT
THE 24/7 LIGHT OF ALCOHOLIC CLUBING AND STRIP CLUB
THAT IS NOT SATANIC LIGHT???
PLUS STOP ACTING LIKE MR ALL KNOWING , YOU MAY BE NOT RIDICULOUS BUT YOU HAVE SOME EGO AKHY ...
AMERICA IS MORE SATANIC IN HER NIGHT LIFE THAN NO WHERE IN THE WORLD ...
ABOUT YOUR HOMLESS AND FEEDING THE HUNGRY
YOU ARE THE ONE BEING RIDICULOUS..
WELL AMERICA FEEDS YOU AND YOU MUSLIM FELLOWS IN THIS MATTER
SO YOU ARE WRONG ...DEAD WRONG .
TAKE CARE.
What do you mean by America feeds you and your Muslim fellows? I am an American Muslim, do you have a problem with that??

You are not even making sense, if America is satanic based on the fact that it has strip clubs and bars then so are the so called Muslim countries since they are infested with bars and clubs. You said America feeds Muslims. Does satan feed people?? You are very immature, I pointed out the wrong in one of your remarks in here you are acting like a child. Very sad indeed.
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Old 30th December 2004, 19:03
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Originally posted by coolpharess

it is the land of satanic light
you double faces bro..
it is satanic and very satanic and if you see it not than i suggest you check yourself with brother T
HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT SATAN.
HOW IS IT SATANIC ?
THE LIGHT ...NOT GOD'S LIGHT
THE 24/7 LIGHT OF ALCOHOLIC CLUBING AND STRIP CLUB
THAT IS NOT SATANIC LIGHT???
PLUS STOP ACTING LIKE MR ALL KNOWING , YOU MAY BE NOT RIDICULOUS BUT YOU HAVE SOME EGO AKHY ...
AMERICA IS MORE SATANIC IN HER NIGHT LIFE THAN NO WHERE IN THE WORLD ...
ABOUT YOUR HOMLESS AND FEEDING THE HUNGRY
YOU ARE THE ONE BEING RIDICULOUS..
WELL AMERICA FEEDS YOU AND YOU MUSLIM FELLOWS IN THIS MATTER
SO YOU ARE WRONG ...DEAD WRONG .
TAKE CARE.
What do you mean by America feeds you and your Muslim fellows? I am an American Muslim, do you have a problem with that??

You are not even making sense, if America is satanic based on the fact that it has strip clubs and bars then so are the so called Muslim countries since they are infested with bars and clubs. You said America feeds Muslims. Does satan feed people?? You are very immature, I pointed out the wrong in one of your remarks in here you are acting like a child. Very sad indeed.
YOU STILL HAVE EGO ???
IM AN AMERICAN MUSLIM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT???
I CARELESS..
YOU ARE A MUSLIM YOU DO THAT FOR YOURSELF..NOT FOR ME OR ELSE.
THAT IS ONE.
ABOUT THE SATANIC LIGHT.IN AMERICA WE BOTH AGREE ON THAT..
GOOD YOU SAYING IT DOES EXIST IN OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRIES
WELL GUESS WHAT THE SAME NEGROU AND WHITE SATANIC MUSIC IS PLAYED IN THOSE COUNTRIES ...SAME WAY SAME VODKA.AND WISKY
BRO IM NOT ACTING CHILD HERE
IM HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR STANDING FOR THE SATANIC LIGHT.
AND calling a brother child ..ridiculous..
you really need to learn some love may be read some bible ..
that will be better ..because if muslim will make you a hater to your fellow brothers ..
than we have more tentions amongst us we need not more.
wasslam.
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Old 30th December 2004, 19:09
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THEY CAN GET A JOB IF THEY WANT TO...
PLUS THERE ARE PLENTY SHELTERS TO FEED THEM
UNLIKE YOUR SICK MUSLIM MOSQUES WHO KICK THEM OUT AND CALL THEM KAFFIRS ..OR TROUBLED MUSLIMS..so they desreve no help
as for the charity money that goes to the pockets of your leaders ...unless you are one of them...
you should of kept your mouth shut !!!
about the satanic light in america...
and americans and all the world realises this
that drinking in the satanic night light life is deadly
so there is no offence on what i say..
unlike you who is trying to offend theja by the homless plp
well tell him where are you from first of all
and im sure he can post terrifying fotos as well ..
but no he rather search and debate ...he is a noble kaffir
unlike you a hypocrit selfish ..all knowing freak.
ahh you are AMERICAN MUSLIM AND LOYAL TO THE BUSH
you are like allahu akbar im joining the us army in iraq
allahu akbar i follow orders ..
allahu akbar i did my job killing muslims ..
yes my community gived me fatwa that i should fight for my land..and america is also muslim..sadddam is dictator
killing ..killing is good ...kill muslims
and learn islam so you can make america muslim
how sick you are in america ..
how sick communities you are !!!
damn sick
you won't reach 1^percent of the christian good work despite they steel and eat diffrent from the poor
you eat the same food with the poor in the table and your fridge are stocked with food ... very sad very sad very sad.
i hope you realise what i say is true..
im not giving theja credit over you
but you should not defend the satanic light !!!! never!

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
THE TRUTH HAVE NO COLOR BRO
Stop acting like an immature little kid would you? You changed your reply a couple of times while I was typing my answer to the original one you posted. Take a deep breath. Stop and think before writing gibberish.

So now you are insulting your fellow Muslim?? Very satanic I should say, because only satan turns a brother against his brother.

Mosques and charities do not get grants from the government therefore they cannot offer as much help as churches and shelters do. Allah alone is all knowing, I am nothing but his servant but if you felt belittled by my comments then it is your problem not mine for that was not my purpose.

I didn’t vote for Bush. You have assumed the worst from me “you are like allahu akbar im joining the us army in iraq. allahu akbar i follow orders ..allahu akbar i did my job killing muslims. how sick you are in america ..
how sick communities you are !!!
damn sick”
and I will not forgive you for it. You can answer Allah yawm alqiyama.

I’ll not engage in any dialogue with you in the future unless you apologize for your comments.

'Abdullah bin Mas'ud, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
Allah's Messenger (may peace and blessings be upon him) observed: Abusing a Muslim is an outrage and fighting against him is disbelief.


Salam
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Old 30th December 2004, 19:13
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YOU STILL HAVE EGO ???
IM AN AMERICAN MUSLIM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT???
I CARELESS..
YOU ARE A MUSLIM YOU DO THAT FOR YOURSELF..NOT FOR ME OR ELSE.
THAT IS ONE.
ABOUT THE SATANIC LIGHT.IN AMERICA WE BOTH AGREE ON THAT..
GOOD YOU SAYING IT DOES EXIST IN OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRIES
WELL GUESS WHAT THE SAME NEGROU AND WHITE SATANIC MUSIC IS PLAYED IN THOSE COUNTRIES ...SAME WAY SAME VODKA.AND WISKY
BRO IM NOT ACTING CHILD HERE
IM HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR STANDING FOR THE SATANIC LIGHT.
AND calling a brother child ..ridiculous..
you really need to learn some love may be read some bible ..
that will be better ..because if muslim will make you a hater to your fellow brothers ..
than we have more tentions amongst us we need not more.
wasslam.
How dare you stand here and lecture me on how to treat a fellow Muslim when you accused me of supporting the killing of my fellow Muslims?? How does that compare to calling you childish??

Get a life, I do not wish to engage in any conversation with you.

Mounafiq
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