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[-thetruth]

Cool
take it easy brov no need for that. don't try to defend the truth. there is no compulsion in religion. everyone has access to the truth. and knowldge does not come to a person, he has to search for it.

To Muslims, it is requested by Hadrat Abu Bakr (ra), that when the prophet is shown any disrespect in a meeting or Dawa' then it is the duty of every Muslims to leave that meet immidiately. So that wrath of God may not descend upon you while you are still present in such a meet. Islam does not teach that we should go and kill those who does do such hateful thing or treat them in the like manner. We must desist from using vile words too. Their accounting is with God, we are not their Judge.


for those who wish to learn about Islam. this is what Islam is all about

Islam is not a new religion and never been. all prophets were muslims because they fully submitted to the Almighty ONE. When Mohammed was sent to mankind he fullfilled what Moses and Jesus instructed people to do the true Abrahamiam and the true Judaism as well as the true Christianity.
If a christian believe in ONE GOD and all prophets and carry on doing the same good work he will go to heaven
Islam combined the two religions in one in order to worship One God.
If Islam was fake why is it that every year we witnissed the science confirming the Quran and why was no one managed to take up Allah's chalange and produce a single verse with the same hidding meaning?
and why is it the same as 1400 years ago never been changed or altered to suit people.?
Prayer is very specific and exactly the same no matter which country the Muslim happens to live in. There are five prescribed prayers per day at set times according to the rotation of the earth around the sun. All of these prayers are obligatory on every Muslim. The prescribed prayers are recited in Arabic and are recited exactly the same in all countries of the world. The culture of a person does not influence the performance of prayer (salat). It is the exact prayer that Muhammad, p.b.u.h. taught us to do.

Peace and end of discusion

[Theja]

thetruth, I understand you revere the Koran very highly. But to me the Koran has no bearing because I see plenty of errors in it. Simple as that.

Maybe Jer should read Sura 38:15-26 and analyze for us what is missing or added there.

Or check Sura 5:20 and see if a king-size error has been committed.

[LalaMimi]

What King size error?

5:20 Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.

[Theja]

Thanks LM for fleshing out the passage.

Can someone give me the names of the Israelite kings before the time of Moses?

And then my answer will come.

[LalaMimi]

Hi-ya Theja

The Pharaoh said to Joseph "since God has made all this known to you, there is no one so disconcerning and wise as you. You shall be in chrge of MY PALACE AND MY PEOPLE WILL SUBMIT TO YOUR ORDERS...." Joseph was left in charge of the whole land of Egypt.... wasn't he?

also the word Molok, (which is the Arabic word used in that verse) means owners, as well as Kings..

[Theja]

Hey LM, you have the privilege to believe what you want to believe. Just make sure your ladder to God is not leaning against the wrong wall --- or else, you might fall and curse God for not accepting your truth, for He does not accept anything that is false.

You do have a religion!

[LalaMimi]

hello again Theja, I believe that my faith is similar, if not the same as Jesus and what he preached... I believe in One God and associate nothing, welou, nada to Him - He has no partners, associates, parents etc.. which is clearly warned about in Commandment No 2.

Christianity would be very appealing to me, if it were not for the Paganesque aspect of the Christian god having a son and mum; the blasphemous aspect of believing in a suicidal god and idol worshiping (worshiping statues of Jesus and Mary in Churches another transgression that God forbids in Commandment No 4).. that being the reason Jews and Muslims dismiss the Christian Theology as being too airy fairy and insulting to Almighty God.