Correction

[Malik]

VP, you said


Yeah yeah, play me a new tune

In colloquial English (as I'm sure you know perfectly well), "anti-semitism" is taken to mean "hatred of Jews". Similarly people refer to white people as "caucasian", when most are not actually from the Caucasus, etc.


Interesting. Caucasoid is an actual scientific description of a type of human species.

The word semite, as it has been pointed out many time before, is being warped to mean Jews specificly. As you like to further this inacurate meaning...

[nwella amazigh]

whats all this talk about jews AGAIN!

[Malik]

Originally Posted by nwella amazigh

whats all this talk about jews AGAIN!

I don't know, I am talking about Semites.

Why you bringing it up?

[nwella amazigh]

i aint bringing up nothing chill , i just see you chattin bout jews, thats all

[voltaires_priest]

Oh come off it Malik, "Caucusoid" is not the same word as "Caucasian", and in any case both words are inaccurate as there is no "species" of humans that originated in the Caucusus. In fact there are no separate "species" of modern day humans at all, we are all homo sapiens with minor differences of genetics.

"Caucasian" is therefore a word which has taken on a meaning, much like "antisemitism" has. However, one word clearly doesn't bother you as much as the other. But that's OK

Going back to the main point, quibbling about the precise word that's used to describe anti-Jewish racism or hatred of Jews, makes no difference to the fact that the phenomenon exists.



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[Malik]

Originally Posted by voltaires_priest

Oh come off it Malik, "Caucusoid" is not the same word as "Caucasian", and in any case both words are inaccurate as there is no "species" of humans that originated in the Caucusus. In fact there are no separate "species" of modern day humans at all, we are all homo sapiens with minor differences of genetics.

"Caucasian" is therefore a word which has taken on a meaning, much like "antisemitism" has. However, one word clearly doesn't bother you as much as the other. But that's OK

Going back to the main point, quibbling about the precise word that's used to describe anti-Jewish racism or hatred of Jews, makes no difference to the fact that the phenomenon exists.


V

LOL Sure it is. Caucasoid- adjective: of or relating to Caucasian people.
You seem to be missing the point, it is a word that describes various peoples of a certain category. (and I think your comment about no separate species will suprise many scientists. Here is an intro for you http://www.biologyreference.com/Ar-B...y-of-Race.html) I am glad you are on the hippy train, well the New Labour-like one anyway, yet I find it to be a bit inconsistant. That is okay, I think with some time, life experiences and travel that shall provide some new insights. Nothing wrong with that at all.
And I think you have some rather strange ideas, I have taken the effort to point out two words. Where would you get any idea which word I favor? Honestly I put as much weight on one as the other. I think you always attempt to put me in some category yet it just does not work. I do not think I fit to any concept that you like to put clear labels on. This world is not so black and white (please no Ch'ana quotes about black and white world views, in this circle I will run laps around you).

Semite. Yes, I said it. No scared please. I understand the nature of how words 'change' yet why do you help the misconceptions?
Why do you sometimes chime in to say 'yes that is the meaning of the word but you cannot use it any longer because a bunch of wankers use it in a certain manner'?
I am not here to debate whether or not there are people that are anti-Jewish, of course it exists. I am here only to voice something about the word Semite. You ask 85% of the Western world what Semite means and they shall tell you that it pertains to anything to do with Jews or related to something Jewish and somehow you seem to want to help this trend and I cannot figure out why. It would be more politically correct (which you sometimes come across as attempting to be) if you were to spend your efforts to combat the ignorant 85% or so.

[voltaires_priest]

Malik, I think you need to look up the word "species". There isn't a credible scientist in the world that will tell you that there are separate species of human. That article you've posted doesn't say it either. You therefore really aren't "running laps" around me, as you can tell unless you seriously believe that the scientific establishment is wrong about this and you are right.

It is also untrue that most so-called "Caucasians" have their roots in the Caucusus, let alone that they are a separate "species" of human. The name is a hangover from older phsyical anthropology schools that are now discredited. It is retained because it is a term to which people have attached a useful working meaning.

The same is true of antisemitism.

What interests me, is when people see a thread spewing with Jew hatred, but instead of commenting on that, they choose to quibble about the meaning of a particular term that is used to describe it.

It's rather like if someone shoots a missile at you, and someone yells "oh my god, there's a scud missile coming!", and your reaction (rather than heading for shelter) is to pull out a set of binoculars and say "I think you'll find more accurately that it's a BGM 109 Tomahawk as used by US forces", shortly before you blow up. You know, you miss the point but you get to sound smug before you explode into a thousand pieces.

Pedantic at best.



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