Real life Vicky Pollards

[Ghazala]

Disgraceful. Makes my blood boil

6 December 2005
PREGNANT WITH MY SECOND CHILD..AT 15
By Robert Stansfield
A GIRL who became pregnant at 12 is expecting a second baby - at 15.

Amy Crowhurst conceived six months ago with the same boy who fathered her son Alfie, two - even though the pair have never had a proper relationship.

But the teenager, due to have a daughter next year, said she had no regrets and was looking forward to being a new mother again.

She said: "I know what to expect. Perhaps having children should have happened later. But things are meant to be and I'm a good mum."

Amy - who lives with her mother Rose, 45 - plans to bring up the babies without their 18-year-old dad, whom she refuses to name.

She added: "He's not my soulmate but he was there for me. I don't want him to be part of my life. He can see the new baby if he wants to, but I won't marry him."

The teenager quit school at 13, soon after Alfie was born, but has no regrets about becoming a full-time mum.

"I didn't have ambitions," she admitted. "I was too young. I might go back to school, but not for at least five years."

Amy, of Crawley, West Sussex, fell pregnant after losing her virginity to the Gambian boy in a one-night stand. She did not even know his surname.
The pair lost contact and she said soon after her son's birth: "I don't care if I never hear from him again. Alfie's better off without him and my baby's the most important thing."
However, she and the youth got back in touch and began sleeping with each other again.
Amy had vowed to have no more children and at one stage even had a contraceptive jab.She claimed she was surprised to learn she was expecting.
She told Closer magazine: "After Alfie I thought, 'Never again'. I wanted to concentrate on being the best mum I could to Alfie.
"I ran out of the room when I found out because I was so shocked. But I didn't consider an abortion."
Mum-of-nine Rose, who split from Amy's father five years ago, has a young son of her own, Momodou, three. She quit her job as a dinner lady to look after the youngster and Alfie. As her daughter is too young to apply for child benefit, Rose claims the £10.75 weekly allowance for her.
Amy's pride over her second pregnancy is in contrast to her fear during her first, when she even smoked.
She said at the time: "When my waters broke I was terrified. I started banging on my mum's door and then sat on her bed sobbing with fear.
"It was then I started to realise the birth was really going to happen. I wasn't prepared for all the pain."
After Alfie arrived weighing just 5lb 14oz in March 2003, she warned other girls about underage sex. She said: "All I'd say to girls like me is to take more care than I did."
Britain has the EU's highest teenage pregnancy rate, with 29 births for every 1,000 girls aged 15 to 19.
Family Education Trust campaigner Norman Wells said: "The rising trend shows none of the initiatives have made much impact.
"For this girl to get pregnant means she has not learnt from earlier experience.
"And where was her mum when she was out getting pregnant? Parents should know what their children are doing and not rely on schools and the state to do their work for them."

READ the full story in Closer, out now

I would say 'live & let live' but this girl & her kind are a drain on public funds which could be better spent elsewhere. Leaving school at 13, having no skills or qualifications (apart from an ability to procreate); what kind of future is she going to have? The government needs to tackle this. Cut her money off for a start. If she thought she'd have to go without, she'd think twice about bringing another child into the world. Then give her free childcare & force her back to get some qualifications & into employment. Lazy mothers are no good to themselves & will be no good for their children. They need to be educated & put into work instead being allowed to laze about doing nothing important

Ok, rant over. Just resent paying near on £**** a month on tax & NI

[razrif]

lets have you orf
that high horse
sharpish!

[Ghazala]

Nope. Am not coming off it

The total ignorance & the abuse of the system makes me sick. People like this have no incentive to educate themselves or put something back into society. She will be a 'full-time' mum forever probably - there are UNTOLD numbers of people like this & I can't see she cares to be the exception.

Long-term reliance on benefits should only be for those with long-term proven illness. There is an ageing population in this country & all the young need to work

who do you think has failed these girls?
do you think guidance had a role to play?
i know that you could be the best parent in the world but if your daughter wants to go out and have unprotected sex, she will, and without sounding as if im on my 'high horse' too! these girls to tend to be from the same chavvy background thats says its ok if this happens.

[Ghazala]

You're right, its parents who fail them. However, AFTER they've had the kids etc, the govt needs to step in & re-integrate them. You can't have 'chavs' living in groups, cashing their benefits & strolling round shopping centres all day. Who does that benefit? Money for nothing so it is. Plus if they have no incentive to do anything, they won't. Its human nature to take the easy ride. Why wake up early every day when you have have a lie-in & ponce about all day? Personally I wouldn't do it for the pittance they get but not everyone feels that way clearly.

Plus, its not as if most of them are providing their kid with the best childcare at home. I've lost count the amount of young girls I see smoking over their babies; if not when they're still pregnant

They need education & training to get in the job market. Plus subsidised childcare so they are not better off on benefit than when they're working. If not, their next generation will be exactly the same.

[Ghazala]

Meet Natalie

its true that it is made much easier for them to stay home, which should not be the case...these girls are VERY young and need to be making moves toward bettering their futures, but it seems just as baby no 1 is ready for school and time for mum to make changes .....oops out pops No! so again i feel its the climate they live in....chavvette down the road has just been given a bigger council house, just bought little 'Mercedes Ashanti beyonce' a new pair of Nike's with her benefits no problem ... and she does not go hungry.
where is the urgency?