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Old 1st November 2005, 11:18
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once again the suburbs of Paris are making the headlines for riots following the death of 2 teenage boys (one black, one arab )who were electrocuted while (allegedly) running away from the police. This has understandably caused much unrest and a silent protest as well as the expected burning of cars as anger is outpoured.

This is usually a happy time in the cites of Paris with Eid approaching as people create a festive atmosphere, I don't think that will be the case in Clichy-sous-Bois this year

The French government have to wake and see what has resulted of the monster they created in the 60's by sticking all the immigrant families outside the towns and totally alienating the people, this can only help to spread racism, and now they are telling Muslims to integrate themselves!
I first started researching this topic 10 years ago and since that time I have not seen any change whatsoever.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4392126.stm
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Old 1st November 2005, 11:31
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once again the suburbs of Paris are making the headlines for riots following the death of 2 teenage boys (one black, one arab )who were electrocuted while (allegedly) running away from the police. This has understandably caused much unrest and a silent protest as well as the expected burning of cars as anger is outpoured.

This is usually a happy time in the cites of Paris with Eid approaching as people create a festive atmosphere, I don't think that will be the case in Clichy-sous-Bois this year

The French government have to wake and see what has resulted of the monster they created in the 60's by sticking all the immigrant families outside the towns and totally alienating the people, this can only help to spread racism, and now they are telling Muslims to integrate themselves!
I first started researching this topic 10 years ago and since that time I have not seen any change whatsoever.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4392126.stm
Integration can only take place if both the host and the immigrant communities work for it. Having said that, the muslim community in France does not help itself by deliberately refusing to conform to the French secular law.

France is right to insist that its secular law be respected and I, as an Algerian, am 100% in agreement.
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Old 5th November 2005, 11:11
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Really bad, Really sad. Especially to Paris.
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The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten is being protected by security guards and several cartoonists have gone into hiding after the newspaper published a series of twelve cartoons about the prophet Muhammad. According to the Islam it is blasphemous to make images of the prophet. Muslim fundamentalists have threatened to bomb the paper’s offices and kill the cartoonists.

The newspaper published the cartoons when a Danish author complained that he could find no-one to illustrate his book about Muhammad. Jyllands-Posten wondered whether there were more cases of self-censorship regarding Islam in Denmark and asked twelve illustrators to draw the prophet for them. Carsten Juste, the paper’s editor, said the cartoons were a test of whether the threat of Islamic terrorism had limited the freedom of expression in Denmark.


Islam is no laughing matter. The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten is being protected by security guards and several cartoonists have gone into hiding after the newspaper published a series of twelve cartoons (view them here) about the prophet Muhammad. According to the Islam it is blasphemous to make images of the prophet. Muslim fundamentalists have threatened to bomb the paper’s offices and kill the cartoonists.

The newspaper published the cartoons when a Danish author complained that he could find no-one to illustrate his book about Muhammad. Jyllands-Posten wondered whether there were more cases of self-censorship regarding Islam in Denmark and asked twelve illustrators to draw the prophet for them. Carsten Juste, the paper’s editor, said the cartoons were a test of whether the threat of Islamic terrorism had limited the freedom of expression in Denmark.

The publication led to outrage among the Muslim immigrants living in Denmark. 5,000 of them took to the streets to protest. Muslim organisations have demanded an apology, but Juste rejects this idea: “We live in a democracy. That’s why we can use all the journalistic methods we want to. Satire is accepted in this country, and you can make caricatures,” he said. The Danish imam Raed Hlayhel reacted with the statement: “This type of democracy is worthless for Muslims. Muslims will never accept this kind of humiliation. The article has insulted every Muslim in the world.”

Flemming Rose, the cultural editor at the newspaper, denied that the purpose had been to provoke Muslims. It was simply a reaction to the rising number of situations where artists and writers censored themselves out of fear of radical Islamists, he said. “Religious feelings cannot demand special treatment in a secular society,” he added. “In a democracy one must from time to time accept criticism or becoming a laughingstock.”

The affair, however, has also led to a diplomatic incident. On Thursday the ambassadors of eleven Muslim countries, including Indonesia, a number of Arab states, Pakistan, Iran, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, complained about the cartoons in a letter to Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen. They say the publication of the cartoons is a “provocation” and demand apologies from the newspaper.

Jyllands-Posten was also included on an al-Qaeda website listing possible terrorist targets. An organisation which calls itself “The Glorious Brigades in Northern Europe” is circulating pictures on the internet which show bombs exploding over pictures of the newspaper and blood flowing over the national flag of Denmark. “The Mujahedeen have numerous targets in Denmark – very soon you all will regret this,” the website says.

Meanwhile in Brussels a young Muslim immigrant published a poster depicting the Virgin Mary with naked breasts. Though the picture has drawn some protest from Catholics (though not from Western embassies, nor from the bishops), this artist need not fear being murdered in the street. On the contrary, he is being subsidised by the Ministry for Culture.

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Old 5th November 2005, 14:53
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once again the suburbs of Paris are making the headlines for riots following the death of 2 teenage boys (one black, one arab )who were electrocuted while (allegedly) running away from the police. This has understandably caused much unrest and a silent protest as well as the expected burning of cars as anger is outpoured.

This is usually a happy time in the cites of Paris with Eid approaching as people create a festive atmosphere, I don't think that will be the case in Clichy-sous-Bois this year

The French government have to wake and see what has resulted of the monster they created in the 60's by sticking all the immigrant families outside the towns and totally alienating the people, this can only help to spread racism, and now they are telling Muslims to integrate themselves!
I first started researching this topic 10 years ago and since that time I have not seen any change whatsoever.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4392126.stm
Spot on, Kendra. They've spent decades encouraging the growth of impoverished immigrant ghettoes, and now they're seeing the tragic cost.

It's what in part lies behind the (thankfully smaller scale) strife in Birmingham - another city where some areas are increasingly almost exclusive to one ethnic group or another. Those marginalised by the gheottoisation of the cities eventually explode.



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Old 5th November 2005, 19:32
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One wonders why these people kept immigrating over the years. Surely life was much better in their countries of origin. I'd think that the word would have made it's way to the north Africans not to immigrate to France - seeing as how they would face such a miserable existence. Same with the UK.
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Old 5th November 2005, 19:46
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France is a racist society and will never learn.
England had similar problem in the 70-80 and have learnt from that error. the Frogs sorry French need to follow soon

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I feel sorry for you for blaming Islam on your trouble
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