Kingdom of Heaven

This is an A+ movie. That's all I can say. I couldn't sleep until I share my experience with you all. I just finished watching this movie and it is great. Go see it. This film portrays the true Islam I grew up knowing. Saladin was a true gentleman. He forgave the Crusaders and did not kill anyone of them contrary to what they have done years before when they conquered Jerusalem.

Saladin never killed an armless soldier. He releases so many prisoners and did many more great deeds.

However I can't stop asking myself this question: What have happened to our faith to be high-jacked by the Moussabs and the Bin-Ladens? For numerous centuries, we gave the World the example in hospitality, forgiveness, and good behavior. We never killed a woman, a child, or a peaceful man. What happened? What can we do to get back to the traditions of Saladin? The traditions of true chivalry? The tradition of the proud Arabs?

Jeff

[-theTruth-]

Salam

the answer is extreemly simple if only people knew it. to go back to the true Islam is to understand the difference between God and Satan and between God's messengers and God's enemies.
God Make Islam so simple that only Ignorant people find hard to follow
He wants us to be good and acknowledge him(swt)
He want us to pray to him and give Charity to the needy and not to say no to a person who asks for help to be kind to parents and to treat the wife or husband as one single body and soul
Look in the Quran it is full of mercy, it gives commands and conclude it with and God is merciful which basically means try to be good and if you fail just repent and God is most merciful thatis why Islam is the only true religion if only people can acknowledge that

If you look at others verses it clearly say that there are those who follow what their desires tell them and think they are on the right track where in fact they are not ie Bin Ladden, GW Bush etc... and all their followers.

A messenger teaches how to be good and how to stay away from the work of Satan that is what we need to do to achieve peace since our Religion is peace

Our misery is that we forget about God and his messenger and we look at Satan and his followers ie when we are angry instead of controlling the anger and look for a better way to resolve the issue we turn to Satan for help and his best solution is nothing but killing divorcing mocking stealing, fornication gamblings etc... and every act we do Satan make it look legal and moral and gives it good names, like freedom fighter Terrorists insurgents, interest transaction ,revenge, Honor, etc....
you just have to look at Palistine Iraq as examples

Why those people have managed to lead the the world in the past was because they had no other way but the true one. they followed God and never failed.
If God wanted Islam to be the dominant religion what stops him from achieving that? the answer is to go back to the reasons why we are here and where we are going.
We need to understand that our Job is to worship Allah(swt) and to pass on the message of Love Kindness and be good to those who do not harm you whethere they are Jews Christians Atheists or nazies, because our Job is to lead by example.
You see all the people that are going out killing and hurting others in the name of Religion, Greed fame etc... God will Judge them Accordingly

this is my understanding of Islam
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Pray 5 times a day even if you don't do them properly it is better than nothing
fast
Give charity even a smile is one charity
Be kind to people, just and do not cheat even if you are dealing with Racists,Nazies,killers
Treat women kind folow the prophet teachings when he said treat women like if you are dealing A fragile Glass
Honor all form of contracts. Do not break promises
Never leave God out of your sight no matter how bad you are turn to him instead of satan
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If you make a mistake even if they are a weight of a moutain The door is always open sincerely Repent and God WILL FORGIVE YOU that is his promise and God does not lie.
What people do is they follow satan. say they commit a grave sin satan will tell them not to bother about God because he will not forgive you and that is a lie God is the MOST MERCIFUL
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11- And amoung mankind is he who worship Allah upon a narrow marge so that if good befalls him he is content therewithin,but if a TRIAL befalls him,he falls away utterly,he looses both the world and the hereafter. That is the sheer loss(suat al Hadj)
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[Malik]

From the Newsnight Review panel:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ew/4505505.stm

[kkk--nak]

Originally posted by Version7_1
This is an A+ movie. That's all I can say. I couldn't sleep until I share my experience with you all. I just finished watching this movie and it is great. Go see it. This film portrays the true Islam I grew up knowing. Saladin was a true gentleman. He forgave the Crusaders and did not kill anyone of them contrary to what they have done years before when they conquered Jerusalem.

Saladin never killed an armless soldier. He releases so many prisoners and did many more great deeds.

and that was a deadly mistake we are paying for untill today ...the moslems never killed anyone in Spain never forced anyone into conversion and even allowed other religions to stay and to be practiced , the same did the ottomans in eastern europe , hell have they not gave freedom of worship to the orthodox these last won't have slaughtered 200 000 of our moslems in Bosnia lately and the whole eastern europe would have been moslem by now , and moslems won't be in minority in eastern Europe or in Spain and portugal or in southern france and southern Italy , the whole Europe would have been islamised by now if not the world the same could be said in India where the moslems were rulling all over it untill the britts came to give power to the hindous and made the moslems become a threatened minority everywhere ...now we are here to pay for those deadly mistakes our forefathers did...the barbarians won't convert in Islam no matter how good you are to them , the only thing they understand is force , any kindness towards them is seen as a weakeness , a moslem has to be ferm and decieded , no mercy with the ennemies , or mercy only in very special cases

[-theTruth-]

Please KKK i respect your views but don't speak on behalf of all muslims because that is not true.
God created us and put us in tests and trials. those who pass the tests are the winners they usually fight( no always physical) evil by replacing it with good but not fight evil with another evil. THOSE WHO FAILED the tests are the one who have no peace in them and try to blame such and such they can not be muslims (peaceful) untill they understand God.
If God wanted the world to be all muslims why wouldn't he send One messenger to live till doom day and give him all the powers to achieve that?. God punished the wrongdoers in his own way.
The first thing a muslim should learn is why God is most merciful?

Originally posted by kkk--nak

and that was a deadly mistake we are paying for untill today ...the moslems never killed anyone in Spain never forced anyone into conversion and even allowed other religions to stay and to be practiced , the same did the ottomans in eastern europe , hell have they not gave freedom of worship to the orthodox these last won't have slaughtered 200 000 of our moslems in Bosnia lately and the whole eastern europe would have been moslem by now , and moslems won't be in minority in eastern Europe or in Spain and portugal or in southern france and southern Italy , the whole Europe would have been islamised by now if not the world the same could be said in India where the moslems were rulling all over it untill the britts came to give power to the hindous and made the moslems become a threatened minority everywhere ...now we are here to pay for those deadly mistakes our forefathers did...the barbarians won't convert in Islam no matter how good you are to them , the only thing they understand is force , any kindness towards them is seen as a weakeness , a moslem has to be ferm and decieded , no mercy with the ennemies , or mercy only in very special cases

I'll appreciate it if you don't vitiate my threads with your bigotry and nonsense in the future.

[Anisa]

I must go see it, is it out in the UK yet?