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Old 19th April 2005, 21:17
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"In a time of total deceit saying the truth becomes a revolutionary act " I know that and I know that when I start a topic such as this "Women are oppressed and humiliated in the west " it sounds like a revolutionary act aimed to faillure , because most of you will say : NO , NO , this could not be true , this is not what the media has been telling us since we are born , the media is telling us that the west is free and that we are backward and anti democratic !!!!! we are all victims of the jewnited western media, including me , because we were born in a world dominated by the western media and the western decadence that we take it for granted , unless we use our brains and our common sense .....telling the truth nowadays is a revolutionary act , and I have taken that challenge , and I must admit " I am enjoying it "
Hey NAK, we know that their women are illtreated. But Check out this: I think their men, too, are a little too deviant:

Hey there, people, i'm bobby brown
They say i'm the cutest boy in town
My car is fast, my teeth is shiney
I tell all the girls they can kiss my heinie
Here i am at a famous school
I'm dressin' sharp 'n' i'm
Actin' cool
I got a cheerleader here wants to help with my paper
Let her do all the work 'n' maybe later i'll rape her

Oh god i am the american dream
I do not think i'm too extreme
An' i'm a handsome sonofabitsh
I'm gonna get a good job 'n' be real rich

Women's liberation
Came creepin' across the nation
I tell you people i was not ready
When i facked this dyke by the name of freddie
She made a little speech then,
Aw, she tried to make me say "when"
She had my balls in a vice, but she left the dick
I guess it's still hooked on, but now it shoots too quick

Oh god i am the american dream
But now i smell like vaseline
An' i'm a miserable sonofabitsh
Am i a boy or a lady...i don't know which

i wonder wonder

So i went out 'n' bought me a leisure suit
I jingle my change, but i'm still kinda cute
Got a job doin' radio promo
An' none of the jocks can even tell i'm a homo
Eventually me 'n' a friend
Sorta drifted along into s&m
I can take about an hour on the tower of power
'long as i gets a little golden shower

Oh god i am the american dream
With a spindle up my butt till it makes me scream
An' i'll do anything to get ahead
I lay awake nights sayin', "thank you, fred!"
Oh god, oh god, i'm so fantastic!
Thanks to freddie, i'm a sexual spastic
And my name is bobby brown
Watch me now, i'm goin down,
And my name is bobby brown
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Old 19th April 2005, 21:42
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This had happened to Muslim women and Islam does not condone Honour killing,
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lets look at the history of Women before and after jesus(pbuh)
Women in ancient Israel had their position in society defined in the Hebrew Scriptures and in the interpretation of those scriptures. Their status and freedoms were severely limited by Jewish law and custom in ancient Israel:

· Women were restricted to roles of little or no authority.
· Women were confined to the homes of their fathers or husbands.
· Women were to be inferior to men, under the direct authority of men, their fathers before marriage, or
their husband after.
· Women were not allowed to testify in court trials.
· Women could not appear in public venues.
· Women could not talk to strangers.
· Women were required to be doubly veiled when they ventured outside of their homes.
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When Christianity took over
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Jesus set a Good example as follows
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He taught female students.
Luke 10:38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. 39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word. 40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. 41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: 42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

He called a woman a daughter of Abraham as equal to men.
Luke 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

He accepted women in his inner circle.
Luke 8:1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, 2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, 3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

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Islam was the first to liberate Women from Slavery and give them their honours while at that time women were still cursed and killed even 100s miles away in Jerusalem Arabia and surrending Area
women were treated like cattle, devoid of humanity, deprived of all rights, whatsoever. In those days of darkness the people did not recognise any rights due to women who were tolerated in the houses no better than pet animals like goats and sheep: but the conditions totally changed after the advent of Islam and under the sacred teachings of the Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam].
the Quran states
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"But consort with them in kindness." (419) \
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"I advise you to wish well for the women. You should accept this advice of mine." haddith
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The Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam] has set a nice example for this - an example that is unique in its effect and import. Some have explained it by saying that first of all Allah created Hazrat Adam [alayhis salaam] then He created Hazrat Hawwa (Eve) from his rib. Some learned men have said by way of explanation that the Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam] has compared a woman to a rib which is crooked to see but its beauty and health consist in its crookedness. If anyone tries to remove its crookedness by straightening it, it will break and cease to be a rib. To restore to its previous state, it will have to be made crooked then joined together with plaster. The same idea has been beautifully expressed in a Tradition:

"That is, if you want to straighten it. you will only break it."

"And if you want to enjoy it you may enjoy it despite its crookedness."

The Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] has, thus set a wise example that its crookedness is its beauty and health which will be destroyed by straightening it.




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Old 20th April 2005, 08:35
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Old 23rd April 2005, 08:38
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Women have no rights in the west , they are not seen as human beings but simply as a marchindise to be comsumed ...I feel outraged when I hear some westeners denouncing the situation of women in our islamic countries where women are honoured and respected ..we respect our women we respect our youth and we take care of our elderly , now the west who treats women as bodies , and the elderly as abunduned dogs wants shamelessly to give us lessons of morality !!!!!! really !!!! the west is like a student who wants to teach its own teacher ...the few good values in the west are the ones brought by the moslems to it , other than that the west is nothing but a land of rude uncivilised barbars , and they are still barbars in the core and the essence....
Western women have the right to live as they see fit in the West, even the right to tell you to your face to keep your greasy eyeballs off their sexy bodies.

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Old 23rd April 2005, 10:44
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Western women have the right to live as they see fit in the West, even the right to tell you to your face to keep your greasy eyeballs off their sexy bodies.


Comment well said Jeff, I think you further the point of this thread.
Funny being that I think KKK's point was that Western women are treated as sexual objects. The culture is made up that a woman's feeling is to be directly related to her apperance/'sexiness'. You do not have to believe me, it well documented.
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Old 23rd April 2005, 18:25
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No, his point was that women are more oppressed in the West than anywhere else. Which is nonsense.

Similarly, he also believes that Libya and Saudi Arabia are more democratic than western nations - not that he's prepared to move to either place from the oppressive dictatorship of Canada where he currently resides


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