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Old 18th April 2005, 22:35
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Women have no rights in the west , they are not seen as human beings but simply as a marchindise to be comsumed ...I feel outraged when I hear some westeners denouncing the situation of women in our islamic countries where women are honoured and respected ..we respect our women we respect our youth and we take care of our elderly , now the west who treats women as bodies , and the elderly as abunduned dogs wants shamelessly to give us lessons of morality !!!!!! really !!!! the west is like a student who wants to teach its own teacher ...the few good values in the west are the ones brought by the moslems to it , other than that the west is nothing but a land of rude uncivilised barbars , and they are still barbars in the core and the essence....
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Old 18th April 2005, 22:58
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Old 18th April 2005, 23:48
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I don't think Western women are more oppressed than *our* women... that is also getting old...

at least a woman is free to be the person or in the position she chooses to be in the West, without the repercussions that occur in *our* part of the world... Personally, I may not condone a lot of what does go on in the lives of many Western women - but I would say they have greater respect and freedom, than the average woman in Africa, the Middle East and those in places like Pakistan and Bangladesh etc...

One Example: I have just read an interesting article about Honour killings that have happened in Germany. Women who were killed by family members because they wanted to live their lives as they chose to. This had happened to Muslim women and Islam does not condone Honour killing, but somehow respect for Islamic principles and human life is evaded by a family and a society, that choose to think that women bring such consequences upon themselves... just this little issue is not an isolated instance, I know this happens in our homeland, Morocco.. it happened more than once, in the small town I came from... with occurrences such as these, esp when they happen in the West - how can you convince anyone that women from our cultural back round are so respected and are not oppressed?
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Old 19th April 2005, 02:57
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I don't think Western women are more oppressed than *our* women... that is also getting old...

at least a woman is free to be the person or in the position she chooses to be in the West, without the repercussions that occur in *our* part of the world... Personally, I may not condone a lot of what does go on in the lives of many Western women - but I would say they have greater respect and freedom, than the average woman in Africa, the Middle East and those in places like Pakistan and Bangladesh etc...

One Example: I have just read an interesting article about Honour killings that have happened in Germany. Women who were killed by family members because they wanted to live their lives as they chose to. This had happened to Muslim women and Islam does not condone Honour killing, but somehow respect for Islamic principles and human life is evaded by a family and a society, that choose to think that women bring such consequences upon themselves... just this little issue is not an isolated instance, I know this happens in our homeland, Morocco.. it happened more than once, in the small town I came from... with occurrences such as these, esp when they happen in the West - how can you convince anyone that women from our cultural back round are so respected and are not oppressed?
the women in the west have been violated morally and psycologically , especially after the World war I , when in lack of men , women have been forced to work in humiliating jobs such as construction etc ...women have been forced to earn theire daily bread ...you see the west requires from women to be "full man " , we require from our women to be "full woman " ...a woman is not a man and coul never be one ...why a woman is forced to do the military service for example in countries like scandinavia ....?!?!?! thousands of women in the west have to sell theire bodies in order to survive , prostitution is everywhere in the west every street every corner ....it is banalised ...women are seen just as bodies good for the advertising , this is the biggest crime one can ever comit towards women ...now back to your question about what the media calls "honour killing " , well first of all let me tell you that I feel that you are a poor victim of the western media (as most of us are) second let me answer you with another question :" which one do you prefer : honour killing or no honour at all " ????????????? some women want to live with no honour at all and you call that freedom , dcadence is not freedom and we want to honour our women as women .....saying this you should also not take for granted all what you watch in the western Tv about those propagandistic anti islamic documentaries such as honour killing ...I must admit that I have never heard about such a word as Honour Killing in Morocco ...I learned that word in the west ..it is a pure creation of the west , it is all lies and anti islamic poropaganda aimed to distruct our islamic societies...also I do not want you to come back and tell me that prostitution exists in Morocco too ...yes it does and only when we wanted the western "values " in our societies , the same as poverty and illeteracy , they are all the price of westernisation !!! prostitution never existed in Morocco ( the same as poverty and illeteracy) before the contact with the west ( 1900) and before the west imposed on us its decadence and called it values and freedom !!!! the only prostitution that existed in Morocco before 1900 was the one practised by the jewish women .
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Old 19th April 2005, 03:08
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"In a time of total deceit saying the truth becomes a revolutionary act " I know that and I know that when I start a topic such as this "Women are oppressed and humiliated in the west " it sounds like a revolutionary act aimed to faillure , because most of you will say : NO , NO , this could not be true , this is not what the media has been telling us since we are born , the media is telling us that the west is free and that we are backward and anti democratic !!!!! we are all victims of the jewnited western media, including me , because we were born in a world dominated by the western media and the western decadence that we take it for granted , unless we use our brains and our common sense .....telling the truth nowadays is a revolutionary act , and I have taken that challenge , and I must admit " I am enjoying it "
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Old 19th April 2005, 04:57
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we are all victims of the jewnited western media...
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Old 19th April 2005, 08:24
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