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Old 11th March 2005, 12:43
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...I hope I'm not being rude but I just wanted to ask how the financial aspects worked?

Like when the hubbies come over here can they speak English? What sort of jobs do they do? Is sharing household expenses a bit tricky?

I hope I haven't offended anyone by asking. I don't beleive that we should choose spouses based on their income . I do believe that spouses should help each otehr and income should be pooled into ONE household budget but I just wondered if the girls marrying guys from Maroc felt like they were supporting them? Also this may not be good for the man's confidence?
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Old 11th March 2005, 14:29
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Salam Sis...

Hope all is well with you inshallah...

Good question...but i guess a little give and take, and inshallah soon the brother will sort himself out...when he gets use to the surroundings etc...its a team effort...but yes ur right its hard on a brothers pride in this kinda situation...

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Old 11th March 2005, 14:51
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SA Anon,

I found a Fatwa on a wifes income. I am not sure if it answers your question, but hope it helps someone.



Assalaam alaikum,

Question :


Does a woman who is employed have to pay the household expenses? Her husband is saying that if she does not pay the household expenses, she will not be allowed to work at all. Does her husband have any right to the salary which she gets for her work? If she does have to pay towards the household expenses, how is that to be divided between her and husband?

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Praise be to Allaah.

They should come to some agreement concerning this issue – the sharing of household expenses between a husband and wife who both go out to work and earn a living – and avoid any dispute concerning it.

With regard to how that should be done, this depends on a number of things, as discussed below:

1 – If your husband stipulated in the marriage contract that expenses are to be shared otherwise he will not let you work, then the Muslims are bound by their conditions, as the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“The Muslims are bound by their conditions, except for conditions which forbid something that is permitted or permit something that is forbidden.” And he SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“The conditions which are most deserving of fulfilment are those by means of which sexual intimacy becomes permissible for you.”

So you are bound by the conditions you made, if you made any conditions [in your marriage contract].

2 – If you did not make any conditions, then the household expenses are all the responsibility of the husband, and the wife does not have to pay any of the household expenses; he is the one who has to pay them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Let the rich man spend according to his means”

[al-Talaaq 65:7]

And the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You are obliged to spend on them and clothe them according to what is reasonable.”

So spending is the obligation of the husband. He is the one who should take care of the household needs and his own needs and those of his wife and children. (The wife’s) money and salary belong to her, because that is given in return for her work and her efforts. (The husband) draw up the marriage contract on that basis, and he did not stipulate any condition that she should pay the household expenses, or half of them, etc. – unless she gives up any part of her salary of her own good pleasure,

“but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, take it, and enjoy it without fear of any harm (as Allaah has made it lawful)”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:4]

But if the marriage contract was drawn up on the basis of any such condition, then the Muslims are bound by their conditions.

But we advise you to give up part of your salary to your husband in order to please him and to resolve the dispute and solve the problem, so that you may live in peace and harmony. So agree upon something between yourselves, such as one half of the salary, or one-third, or one-quarter, etc., so that the problem will be solved and so that love and harmony may take the place of conflict. Or perhaps he will agree and be content with what Allaah has decreed for him, and he will spend according to his means, and he will forego all of your salary and have some pride concerning the matter. But if that is not possible, then there is no reason why you should not refer the matter to the courts in the city where you live, and whatever the shar’i court decides will be sufficient, in sha Allah. May Allaah help you both.



From the fatwas of Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez. (www.islam-qa.com)
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Old 11th March 2005, 15:11
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Thanks for the contributions Honey and Khalid

Khalid - yeah, ur right. It can put the brother in a difficult situation.

Honey - thanks sis. I read fatwas on this too. Thing is that practically you don't really want to live a married life following strict conditions and "contracts". I know that I spend freely on the house, groceries etc (even though I don't have to). But I enjoy it as its OUR home. One pot of income, no mines and yours.

Then again my hubby has been in the UK for ages now (long before he met me) and is settled Alhamdolillah.

I just wonder how couple with the newly arrived hubbies work it out.
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Old 11th March 2005, 15:15
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Anon, this is something I've often wondered about too. It must be quite difficult initially, because even if the partner in Morocco had savings, their worth would be far less in the UK.
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Old 11th March 2005, 15:15
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For some i think its pretty much the same, when my sister brought her hubby over, he found a job within a few months and she was working too so they just shared both thier incomes on the house shopping etc, she has left her job now and he looks after the household now.
So he never felt he relied on her for anything apart from bringing him here.
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Old 11th March 2005, 15:31
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Anon, this is something I've often wondered about too. It must be quite difficult initially, because even if the partner in Morocco had savings, their worth would be far less in the UK.
I don't think its wise to compare savings when choosing a spouse as there are more important criteria but I do wonder about the dynamics of the relationship i.e. how does the man feel when the wife is earning loads more. How does the wife feel, like a mummy?

I just wondered about that.

SA its great that ur sis is a housewife now
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