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Old 17th February 2005, 20:03
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I am sick and tired of hearing too many negative comments made by Women or men about illegal people. they are humans and regardless of their religion they are sinners and can be devious or kind as well. to say that all illegal people are after papers and should be accused of harming others is totally out of order.
Yes, everyone wants to secure a future and that is a fact so if a man or woman is after papers there is no harm in that because how would anyone build a future without security?
Why do women accuse an illegal person of cheating before they even give a chance to speak? that is so sick and low comments from anyone to suggest?
I can see a lot of women on here who fall in that category and so sad.
remember it's not only the non brits who are illegal
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British backpackers make up the largest nationality of illegal workers in Australia. Why?

When British people think of illegal immigrants, they don't usually consider their own countrymen and women in that light.

But figures from the Australian Immigration department reveal UK citizens are propping up their labour underworld. Among a total of 51,000 people who had overstayed their visas at June 2004, 5,500 were from the UK.

source BBC
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see the myth below
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b30c0535a05.htm

Guys stop behaving like if you own the nationality remember that the earth belong to God and with love and respect we can all share it. Africans die for lack of water and Canada alone has enough water to feed the whole world where is the balance?
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Old 17th February 2005, 20:43
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Tihad,
We are not living in a perfect world. Illegal immigrants are not criminals per se. What we are saying is that young girls must not fall in to the honey trap set by the very many men who will marry ANYTHING to stay. Is that right or is it not right? Do we not have countless jokes or tales about people marrying old gawriyats to get papers? Or mentally ill women? Or even cousins (who they later dump & cause problems in the family)?
Come on, don't get wet. Accept a reality. Many people are not thinking straight when they are illegal. They are depressed, worried for their future. Many are not even ready for marriage itself. Marriage is simply the means to secure an end. Once they are secure, the depression passes and many dispose of the person they married to stay. True or not?
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Old 17th February 2005, 21:01
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I understand and agree with you totally. marriage is not a supermarket trip you can just pick and pay but what I am against is the countless of women who just accuse others without even speaking to them. bear in mind any marriage done not according to the sunnah is like building a house without foundation.
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Old 17th February 2005, 21:05
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The mosques are full of illegal men looking for pious wives. Are they there for genuine reasons or for easy pickings? Not easy to decide is it? Choosing a partner for marriage is arguably the hardest decision we make. When the road to that marriage involves papers, the decision becomes harder. There are a lot of con artists. I would say that you are better off marrying someone from home, where you can meet the family & get a feel of their roots, than some random person at the Mosque or in a bar. They may be genuine; but who wants to take that risk?
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Old 17th February 2005, 21:08
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Tihad,
The mosques are full of illegal men looking for pious wives. Are they there for genuine reasons or for easy pickings? Not easy to decide is it? Choosing a partner for marriage is arguably the hardest decision we make. When the road to that marriage involves papers, the decision becomes harder. There are a lot of con artists. I would say that you are better off marrying someone from home, where you can meet the family & get a feel of their roots, than some random person at the Mosque or in a bar. They may be genuine; but who wants to take that risk?
I suppose
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Old 17th February 2005, 21:09
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Tihad,
I will ask you again when you have a daughter Inshallah. Then you'll be paranoid like us
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Old 17th February 2005, 21:11
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Hey why girls and boys don't wanna help out a fellow country(wo)man in need to get out of albled?

It saves on illegality......
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