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Old 6th December 2004, 20:24
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I wonder what it is that is causing people to have such strength of feeling over going to a concert! I went there and it was awsome! Actually, none of the attributes that you appear to ascribe to fellow north Africans are true! By whose standards are you judging the aesthetic qualities of other people? Who cares what people look like or whether they are legal or clandestine? People go to concerts to enjoy music, not to ascertain whether people have symmetrical facial features or their exact civic identity.

Not only are your comments racist, they smack of eugenics...so do you mean to say that people, who (in your view only because any assessment of aesthetic qualities has always, will alsways be a normative thing) are somehow lesser human beings?

Whatever happened to sensible morocco.com visitors!?

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Old 6th December 2004, 20:59
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Not only are your comments racist, they smack of eugenics...so do you mean to say that people, who (in your view only because any assessment of aesthetic qualities has always, will alsways be a normative thing) are somehow lesser human beings?

Whatever happened to sensible morocco.com visitors!?

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Old 6th December 2004, 21:36
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Sheb Khalid is over rated. He made a career out of one song.
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Old 6th December 2004, 22:08
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You know, its not even that I dont like his music. Its the fact that these concerts tend to be full of people you would wish to avoid. For example, skareeya as my dad says
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Old 6th December 2004, 22:09
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Is it free speech?

Free speech! That is exactly what the BNP used to say to justify their bigotry. with the Race Amendment Act, the BNP are no longer able to say that. Was it Rousseaux who said that 'La liberte ne pourrait etre absolue...elle a certainement pour limite la liberte des autres'.

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is the fact that Moroccans (some, not all) tend to always denigrate their fellow Moroccans? Why is this do you think? When the English go abroad and meet their fellow countrymen and women, they look out for each other. Moroccans 'diss' each other endlessly! Why? Is it a sub-conscious way of rejecting those who remind us of ourselves? Does this mean that there are parts of our culture that we dislike?

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Old 6th December 2004, 22:16
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No, it means that we CANNOT bear being harassed by nasty sleazy individuals & so we avoid these places. Many MANY women feel this way.

As for equating our comments with anything said by the BNP; you must be joking......... I am patriotic but I do not lie about things which irritate me intensely. Women should be able to go to enjoy music concerts without being hounded by vile people who are on the look out for papers. You can dismiss it as a stereotype if you choose but you would be a liar if you denied that this goes on A LOT.
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Old 6th December 2004, 22:24
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I do not condone harrassing women!

I think I know what you mean...but I still would not generalise! some of us were there merely to enjoy the music. There are good and 'bad' Moroccans...there are also good and 'bad' french/english you name it.

The relationship that some Moroccan men have with some Moroccan women is to do with how men are conditioned to think about women...as sexual objects! it is to do with how boys and girls are brought up, how they construct their gender identity.

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