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Old 26th February 2007, 20:56
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I was in Western Sahara

Hi! I have been in Western Sahara and Tindouf and I think it's not OK what you're doing there, Moroccans. I know you love fostats but Western Sahara was always Spanish. And now ... I don't know, it's not correct guys.

Your army did terrible things. Thanks to God Saharawis have a place now, Tindouf and all this temps.

I am not intending to create a war, and I don't do it because I am Spanish. I like Morocco also and I want to learn Moroccan.

What's your opinion?
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Old 1st April 2007, 01:10
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Have u been in tiziOzou in algeria

I know u r not spanish u r algerian or polizabal stop telling wrong stories man .

i ve been in moroccan sahara every thing is OK
go to tiziOzou and see how many kbaylies ve been killed by algerian police

there is a war there .

look at this site
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finally if u r spanish if u r ?
wat about The Basque National Liberation Movement:

is an umbrella term that comprises all social, political and military organizations orbitting around the ideas of ETA. The wide variety of organizations and their different levels of belonging to this political space made this name very common in the 80s and 90s.

The MLNV has suffered in the past decade a judicial persecution that has brought many of its members to jail and illegalized many but not all its elements. Generally the judicial actions were in connection with the direct links between ETA and many of these organizations

have good time and free The Basque National Liberation
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Old 15th August 2007, 12:58
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Thumbs down Nav got it wrong!!

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I know u r not spanish u r algerian or polizabal stop telling wrong stories man .

i ve been in moroccan sahara every thing is OK
REally?? No it's not. The violence repression and torture still continue. Wher you been man? WAKE UP!!!!!!
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Old 5th September 2007, 15:39
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REally?? No it's not. The violence repression and torture still continue. Wher you been man? WAKE UP!!!!!!
who cares man?
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Old 29th September 2007, 02:14
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Actually I think the whole of the Maghreb is 1 people, etchnic, culture and language. And there are so many sub-groups and tribes. If Morocco falls apart every tribe will demand it’s own government and we will fall into great anarchy, because they do not have the means and knowledge do govern!

I am an original Amazigh! Morocco is changing and giving every group it`s rights. We must focus on autonomy of the regions within the Maghreb Union. No division but unity. Morocco consist of Riffi`s, Cleuh, Jbella, Soussa, Arabs, Moroccan Jews etc. These are all as different as they are alike. Polisario leadership is corrupt. The Sahroui`s who are my brothers are the victims of a plot of the Sahroui leaders and Algerian hegemony in the Maghreb.

It’s not logical to speak of one Sahroui culture and group! The Sahroui`s in Morocco are not 1 group of people, they are actually divided. There are Berbers and Arabs first of all. Most of the Sahroui`s are Arabised berbers( Imazighen) like me from the North of Morocco. We are the original inhabitants of the Maghreb. Look at the names in the Sahara and old rock paintings. Adrar Iforas etc.

Our customs and language is very different from the people in Rabat and I agree that the wealth is not equally spread. Other people and region had also a lot to suffer in past by the human right abuses of the army! Look who is in the army; Sahroui`s, Riffies, Cleuh en Sous berbers, they are all dominant in this army. But the army changes and abuses are something from the past that has changes already a great deal. I saw it with my own eyes. This is because all the groups are demanding their right in the Maghreb. We need you Sahroui`s to be part of Maghreb and Morocco to put pressure on the governments to change. Themore groups we have the more democratic we will be.

It is far to dangerous for 200.000 Sahroui`s to get a county as big as the North of Morocco with 30.000.000 inhabitants of different backgrounds. This would be a great danger for the geopolitics and stability of this region and this group could never defend itself of the terrorist danger. Morocco is a multi-cultural country that is well aware of the cultural background of it’s citizens as well it is an example for the Maghreb countries regarding progressive government and moderate Islamic course.

Of course I want the Sahroui`s to be free, free of corrupt Polisario leadership, Algerian influence in politics, instability. 200.000 people can not govern a country that size!

Now they will get the chance under autonomy from Morocco to prove and govern themselves. I want the Sahroui`s to be free and happy to and the best way is the Moroccan way. Compare Morocco to other countries in the Maghreb! I think if in the future the Maghreb countries will develop more, there would be more space for a Maghreb confederation of sates were all the regions have great autonomy under the Maghreb confederation.

First of all if we are talking about being Moroccan. Sahroui`s are more Moroccan than me. Your custums and language is more like the Arabs of Rabat that descends from Rachidia, you see. Ok! So It`s not about being or feeling Moroccan, It’s about being Maghrebbian. And the best way to govern the Sahara is not division but UNITY in the Maghreb!

Together we can make a change and built up our land! My people the Imazighen are the original inhabitants of the Maghreb and this includes the Sahara. I ask you Sahroui`s lets unite and make Morocco a better country for our children and other future generations. I believe we can do this because we are as much different as we are the same!
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Old 25th December 2007, 09:22
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الخلاصة هي أن العوامل جعلت من تعميق ارتهان المغرب لنزاع الصحراء رهانا جزائريا تضمن من خلاله إشغال المغرب عن المطالبة بالصحراء الشرقية، مثلما هو حال إسبانيا التي اختارت نفس الموقف حتى لا يتحرك المغرب للمطالبة بتحرير سبتة ومليلية والجزر المحتلة من جهة أولى، وعملت في نفس السياق على توفير التغطية للتدخل الأجنبي في المنطقة من جهة ثانية.
le Maroc gagne la guerre au sahara contre algerie+libya+cuba+poli c'est fini
sahara est marocain ... Vive le FIS et Vive Republic kabylien capitale TiziOzou
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Old 6th March 2008, 20:40
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but Western Sahara was always Spanish
That is too funny. so was andalus but we are going to take that back
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