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Old 8th March 2006, 18:40
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yes i agree splittin is nobody's benefit.
i was the hater #1 of Driss Elbassri, i must said he wasn't only a threat to the Amazigh people (Rifian) but also to Morocco as awhole country! he's such a terrorist!
its nice you set a local Rifi newspaper, n hopefully u will be able to broadcast a rifi channel why not. unless it approves the unity of Morocco n not the division! i must say though am arab not really into the arabic spirit, well any way lol i dn't know if " Jebli" is an arab or categorized apart, but any way things u said about the arabic countries supportin the polisario n movin against the Amazigh is gettin on my last nerve i know there is nothing Morocco can take from the arab countries i hope that the gov eventually realize ther is nothin we can take from them, they jst a pain in the @ss not to mention the Leila isle case when they all showed thier ugly side, we get more benefits from european countries n US than those arab blah blah haters, i ain't proud of my arabism truelly!!!
about Muahmmed 6! i think its brighter now, i think we might see more changes later take it easy, this may comes slow in the progress, i am more optimisstic about him, well at the end u only have urself to rely on, but i think he's way better than that showed so far.
ok i understand now about the word "state", it jst sounded to me at first like u were talkin about it as it does not concern ur side.
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Old 8th March 2006, 21:47
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Azul! (means hello in Tamazight)

I am really glad to have this conversation with you ..

yeah .. the imazighen consider any division a threat to themselves .. on that basis we absolutely oppose the Arabic Polisario .. we want North Africa to be united not new states !!!!!

Jbala are Riffians who changed their language.. according to historians they are the first moroccan imazighen who changed their language .. (before poeple of Fez rabat ...) but there is a region near Tetouan where people speak a kind of Tamazight slightly different from Tamazight Tarifit this place is called Ghomara ...

and yes i know poeple from Casa who speak Darija like you and don't feel proud at all to be so called Arab..

the Arabs never helped Morocco .. they only are looking for their benefits and the Moroccan free support for Palestine, iraq, syria ... they are are only a bunch of loosers... and those Saudi Arabian oil lords are coming to Marrakech and Agadir only to **** and rape Moroccan poor beautiful girls for their nasty stolen oil money .. the Moroccan newspapers are talking the whole time about them...

the real name of the island you mentioned is Tora it's an Amazigh name of cuorse .. the stupid Moroccan Tv and papers kept saying it's Leila ... Leila is actually transformed from the spanish word "La isla" .. if you delete the "s" you got La ila : Leila ..

you can read very good articles in Arabic about the isle events and you will know a lot about it here are the links:

http://membres.lycos.fr/tawizaneghmi...5/Boudhan3.htm

http://membres.lycos.fr/tawizaneghmi...5/Boudhan1.htm



have a good time ..
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Old 8th March 2006, 23:50
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N i like having this conversation with you too. n you have showed me many facts that i have never known such as the roots of "Jebala"..am actually well my father is from somewher in Ouazan n my mother is well from Larache n actually her parents r from Khmis El Sahel.. i don't know if you have read about this place but its Jebala area near Larache, within the province..any way its the first i know the jebala r branched from Amazigh n have changed their language but i noticed many things tha Rifian & jebala have so much in common, as traditions..well maybe they even share almost same places.

i don't think i ever heared about this place Ghomra, but i have lived in Tetouan for couple of years (studying), n i had friends n collegues from Hoceima as well n were Rifians.
i agree about this of Saudi Arabians coming to our country messing up our society giving promises to young women about marriage and a luxerious lives, n i have been to a forum where all the arabs there accusing morocco of betraying the arab worlds for US, and Isreal n all the fake bullsh** they started to bring up, this is all we get from them, i wish we get out from this messed up Arab Union since we don't get anything from it..

Oh yeah u delighted me about this of Leila Isle!! well i already knew isle is "la isla" but didn't think its this way lol, so when Tora was occupied by a bunch of spanish army, then no arab country stood by the side of Morocco, on the contrary, Algeria showed its grouse side about that n went approving spain.

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Old 9th March 2006, 00:48
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about the city of Tetouan.. the Original name is " Tittawin" it means "the eyes" in Tamazight (tarifit, tasusit...)..

I remember my grandmother she used the word Tittawin when she talked about Tetouan..



the Arab league is based on Arab race and Arab supremacy most Arabs deny the original poeples like Imazighen, Kurds, Black Africans in Sudan ... and so on ..

you know if you fellow the Arab media from national tv to big channel like Aljazeera and Alarabiya.. they are crazy about arabism : arabism of libanon, syria, arabism of Iraq .. they are talking all the time about: Arab sport, Arab economy, Arab woman, Arab football, Arab history .. lol .. they wanna transform the univers into Arab..

If Tunisia wins a football match .. it's an arab victory!

if there is some democracy devlopment in Morocco .. that means to them the Arabs are becoming democratic!!!!

it's the Arabomania


look to the Americans and the British and the australians and the canadians .. they speak 99.99% the same English .. I never heard of an Anglophone economy or an Anglophone victory .. or an English racial union .. everybody is proud of his country..every thing is ok..



on more thing .. I read a couple of years ago on a Moroccan newspaper that there is some old cultural relation between Larache and England .. Larache poeple master English language very good and better than the rest of Moroccans .. is that right? and how?
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Old 9th March 2006, 01:48
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lol yeah i know about this of "Tittawin" cuz some of tetouanis used to pronouce it this way u know

The arabism thing is right, but see i don't like this channels especially Al Jazeera they always talking $hit about Morocco critisizin it about anythin n This show a syrian guy runs is always bringin people together n let them fight like he brings a moroccan n algerian n brings up a hot topic n make them go argueing while people of morocco n algeria r watchin n burnin hate to each other ...those channels r corruptin !

make sure no one feels the Arab thing!! just hypocrt two-faced losers.. i myself don't feel like cheerin an arabic country football team..i feel more African than arabic, well nothin wrong about this am not gonna go hell lah yehfed if i didn't praise my screwed up arab thing am i?... am first place proud to be a muslim then am proud to be moroccan then am proud to be African...thats' it!!! i assure you that most of them arabs in the other side feel no love for the Maghrebian countries , especially Morocco, n when they see us doin something good eventually as winnin a cup they better not arabilize it wit this crap other wise they should share oil wit us in the name of Arabs lol or at least LEAVE us alone n them shut their Fuc** mouthz.
n let me tell u one more time even tha morocco has its own problems but is far way better even than those oily gulf nations..! take the oil out of ther n what would u have? nothin more than dry minds having japense n chiness run their businesses while they freakin out themselves under a large tent as back in the Hambala & Koraysh ages.

i have always linked Amazigh to Kurds, they almost seem the same to me as for what they been through, same struggle..
n yeah some day arabs will be praisin thier arabism more than islam its leadin them to this way, they need to realize tha Religion is not a race n race is not the religion, islam is a thing n arab r some thing else. its true tha the Quran is in arabic but ok does not mean written by arabs.!


About the Larache things, i don't know for sure but i know that many Larachians are living in England. n that most of the moroccan community in england r Larachians. (most Jebala).. n that they actually worked first in Gibraltar n then they started to move up to England n there wher they settled down, n yeah many larachians feel tendency towards this country n wishing to go there (but me ) lol... maybe cuz they have friends n families there so they quiet feelin more comfortabel about the idea of visitin/livin there, so many tend to learn English or have somehow learnt english through friends they have who are from England! i myself could communicate in english even before i ever went n studied it at school! cuz i was hangin out lots with some friends in england. but i don't know for sure how come the Larachians specifically were linked to england!! maybe some british invested over near the area n therfore hired many larachians that tehy finnaly ended up in England.!!! maybe lol

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