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Old 19th July 2005, 09:17
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Volume 7, Book 62, Number 7:
Narrated Said bin Jubair:
Ibn 'Abbas asked me, "Are you married?" I replied, "No." He said, "Marry, for the best person of this (Muslim) nation (i.e., Muhammad) of all other Muslims, had the largest number of wives."
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Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:
The Prophet said, "The rewards (of deeds) are according to the intention, and everybody will get the reward for what he has intended. So whoever emigrated for Allah's and His Apostle's sake, his emigration was for Allah and His Apostle; and whoever emigrated for worldly benefits, or to marry a woman, then his emigration was for the thing for what he emigrated for." (1)

Dear Morocco.com;

I do not know why every women’s group or people in general use the following verse of the Noble Quran to reason banning polygamy/polgeny. I quote the Quran:

Bismillah ir-rahmaan ir-rajeem
Aoodthu billahi min ash shaytaan ir-rajeem
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YUSUFALI: Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). But turn not altogether away (from one), leaving her as in suspense. If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: And you have it not in your power to do justice between wives, even though you may wish (it), but be not disinclined (from one) with total disinclination, so that you leave her as it were in suspense; and if you effect a reconciliation and guard (against evil), then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The second sentence in the verse is enough to dispel the idea that having more than one wife is not lawful but many still insist that this means only one wife for the Muslim man. The only condition to polygamy is that the man must be just. No man can PERFECTLY just because only Allah(soubhanna wa taa’la) is the absolute perfect and just in this world. I quote:

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YUSUFALI: And thou wilt see the angels surrounding the Throne (Divine) on all sides, singing Glory and Praise to their Lord. The Decision between them (at Judgment) will be in (perfect) justice, and the cry (on all sides) will be, "Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!"
PICKTHAL: And thou (O Muhammad) seest the angels thronging round the Throne, hymning the praises of their Lord. And they are judged aright. And it is said: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!
SHAKIR: And you shall see the angels going round about the throne glorifying the praise of their Lord; and judgment shall be given between them with justice, and it shall be said: All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

This is the why the Muslim man is not able to be Perfectly just and also because:

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YUSUFALI: It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance.
PICKTHAL: Lo! thou (O Muhammad) guidest not whom thou lovest, but Allah guideth whom He will. And He is Best Aware of those who walk aright.
SHAKIR: Surely you cannot guide whom you love, but Allah guides whom He pleases, and He knows best the followers of the right way.

Allah (soubhanna wa taa’la) says that we have not control over whom we love, so how can you deal perfectly and justly between wives. You can not this is the meaning of verses. Some will take this to mean no polygamy but we know that the Quran is perfect, without crookedness and mentions MANY times speaking to one man as to him having more than one wife for one example:

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YUSUFALI: YOUR WIVES are as a tilth unto YOU; so approach your tilth when or how YE will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that YE are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.
PICKTHAL: YOUR WOMEN are a tilth for YOU (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
SHAKIR: YOUR WIVES are a tilth for YOU, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

I cannot believe that the MOST HOLY BOOK in this world can allow and disallow a thing at the same time. It has to be one or the other otherwise this is crookedness. Therefore polygamy is lawful and the only thing to fear is Allah (soubhanna wa taa’la) not treating wives perfectly just.

Soubhanna Allah wa bihamdika,
Sheikh Ieesau Ibn Mhamed
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Old 19th July 2005, 14:36
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Salam Akhi
Islam is clear. the verses are clear and the permissibility of the marriage is as clear as water.
Marrying up to 4 helps to stop fornication and save women from depression and loneliness and protect them from harm. and brings communities closer to each others.
Those who are against it are greedy and selfish and are in fact disobeying Allah Swt
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Old 19th July 2005, 15:56
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Wow that was so insightful, I shall dispose of my Valium and my therapist immediately and find a husband who already has 3 wives so I can find my happiness...thank you !!
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Old 19th July 2005, 18:58
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Wow that was so insightful, I shall dispose of my Valium and my therapist immediately and find a husband who already has 3 wives so I can find my happiness...thank you !!
Kendra
I feel sad for those who resort to Valium and terapists there should be no depression in Islam but that is another subject but anyhow please answer my question and no hard feelings

one question if you don't mind me asking?
This is just to understand where you fit? Do you pray? if you do, Are you saying that Allah SWT made a mistake when he allowed us up to 4 or maybe we are too stupid to understand perfect Arabic?? help me to understand you

Also Like Dr Zaki put it politly by saying:
in America there was over 7 millions women more than men. if everyone marry 121 which one would you prefere your sister sharing a man or become a public property???????
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Old 20th July 2005, 00:18
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Marrying up to 4 helps to stop fornication and save women from depression and loneliness and protect them from harm. and brings communities closer to each others.
Those who are against it are greedy and selfish and are in fact disobeying Allah Swt

ROTFLMAO!

Dude, that's funny!

Err, it was a joke, right?


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Old 20th July 2005, 05:29
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Just watched the Iranian movie "LEILA".

The mother-in-law manipulated the couple for the husband to get a second wife in hopes of getting a grandson, as the first wife could not conceive.

After the wedding, the first wife got so nauseated by the whole charade that she ran away to her house and refused to enter the husband's house.

Talk about four wives getting cured of depression. No woman wants to share her husband. Four wives is a cruel joke.
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Old 20th July 2005, 22:33
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you enjoy the movie
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