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Old 19th March 2005, 00:00
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To be honest - I think this is a positive thing..

I think the importance of submitting the self to God is not defeated or changed in anyway... I do not think Gender should even be an issue..

Is spirituality and intention less significant, if a woman leads a congregation of both men and women..? doesn't such an aspect defeat the actual essence of each worshipper being an equal when each is facing God?
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Old 20th March 2005, 23:35
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I think it is an intersting subject. I did not look into it if Dr. Wadud stood infront of the men or not (got no time to read much now... or write for that matter LOL) but I do not think that a woman, even while leading prayer, can stand infront of men. As far as I know there is nothing that says it is 7aram for a women to lead salat. But then what does 'imam' mean then? imam means to 'stand in front'. Let the debate begin!(as I see it has aleady has, worldwide).
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Old 21st March 2005, 09:31
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this is a load of crap , some people are ready to sell body and soul in order to please the west , instead of Trying to please theire creator ALLAH ....but it looks like it is all to blame on Ossama , because of him the moslems in the west feel hostages and are ready to give up anything just not been labeled as terrorist .....the saudi ossama was the biggest disaster to our oummah ...anyway this is time when we are going to see the real moslems who will never give up one inch of theire religion , from the hypocrites who will try to please the west before the very GOD....
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Old 21st March 2005, 13:17
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salam all
see how sad it is .
that is a true remark..
and yes they do want to please humans and disobey ALLAH SW
in order not to be tought of as backwards or terrorists!
yes and ossama bin la deen! "no faith" is a disaster
a fanatic peice of of a devil work!
the devil know how to use this man and make him feel he is not doing anything wrong..yet a muslim who can not admit into his mistakes and surrunder is a piece of a devil work and any body regardless of his faith..
i remember one of my german american teacher used to sheer me up and say to me how they had to suffer the same when the war was against germany and that they had to learn polish and live in polish neighborhood in order to be safe!
he was one of the best cops and he suggested me to go for it as well..but destiny took me elsewhere!
we had talked about many things and he knew what im going throu..
so as we see society is very responsible not only fanatics or leaders!
society if not a contractif one can be very evil and lead people to be isolated or get cought into WAR.
"mind abuse,verbal abuse,physical..including hate crimes and bias..
so what we see is not a work of faith but yes a work of weakness and failure!
there was and never will be a women high rabi nor pop nor imam...for the honor of the womens ...give themtheir rughts and keep them away from what is not their job!
asslam aalaykom..
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salam all
see how sad it is .
that is a true remark..
and yes they do want to please humans and disobey ALLAH SW
in order not to be tought of as backwards or terrorists!
yes and ossama bin la deen! "no faith" is a disaster
a fanatic peice of of a devil work!
the devil know how to use this man and make him feel he is not doing anything wrong..yet a muslim who can not admit into his mistakes and surrunder is a piece of a devil work and any body regardless of his faith..
i remember one of my german american teacher used to sheer me up and say to me how they had to suffer the same when the war was against germany and that they had to learn polish and live in polish neighborhood in order to be safe!
he was one of the best cops and he suggested me to go for it as well..but destiny took me elsewhere!
we had talked about many things and he knew what im going throu..
so as we see society is very responsible not only fanatics or leaders!
society if not a contractif one can be very evil and lead people to be isolated or get cought into WAR.
"mind abuse,verbal abuse,physical..including hate crimes and bias..
so what we see is not a work of faith but yes a work of weakness and failure!
there was and never will be a women high rabi nor pop nor imam...for the honor of the womens ...give themtheir rughts and keep them away from what is not their job!
asslam aalaykom..
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