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Old 11th March 2005, 17:39
Yasmeen2 Yasmeen2 is offline
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salam alaikum sisters, I'm just wondering would anyone have any information regarding abortion and when it is permissable. I am divorced since November and I'm expecting my baby in May inshallah. My ex husband was not a good one and the imam at the masjid advised me that I could have had an abortion b4 120 days! I disagreed when the majority of sheikhs said that it is haram at any stage, now my ex husband says I should have had an abortion, I there any definite information that I could send him to prove abortion is haraam? jazakhallah khair. salam alaikum.
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Old 11th March 2005, 18:03
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Walaikoum Salam Yasmeen,

What is the circumstance for you having an abortion sister ?

Life is very scared in Islam and the Shari’ah ruling on abortion is simply divided into stages :

a) Abortion after the soul (Ruh) enters the foetus
b) Abortion prior to the entry of the soul in to the foetus

I must clearly state according to Shari’ah the soul {Ruh} enters the foetus at 120 days (4 months) from conception.

I really do have to go, and I’m so sorry if this come out as rushed as possible BUT abortion after 120 days is totally unlawful and tantamount to murder.

Some Scholars, however, have given a dispensation ONLY in the situation where the mothers life is in certain danger. As far as abortion before the 120 days have elapsed is concerned, it will still be unlawful, though the sin will be of a lesser degree, and it will become permissible if there is a genuine and valid reason.

Allah {SWT} knows best.

Walaikoum Salam.

P.s if you require further info, support, please let me know insha Allah. In the meantime take care.
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Old 11th March 2005, 22:23
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Smile Salam wa alaikoum

Houda,
I once watched a discussion on IQRA on this very subject. There is no scientific evidence as to the exact point at which babies feel pain & when the soul enters. As we do not know for sure, it is best not to have an abortion at all.

Yasmeen,
It is not for your ex-husband to tell you to abort your child & you do not have to provide him with proof of anything. Make sure he fulfils his responsibility, sorry OBLIGATION to financially support his child. You did not make your child on your own so make sure you get what your child deserves even if you have to drag him kicking & screaming to the family courts.

Inshallah khir & I wish you all the best
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Old 12th March 2005, 06:37
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Yasmeen,

Ýour due in May. It is March. By now your child is fully developped, only it has to grow and gain weight.

I can't tell you what to do, but there is no such thing as abortion at this stage. It is termination of life.

As for reasons for abortion:

1. child conceived through incest
2. child conceived when one of the partners is not sane of mind
3. child conceived but mother's life is in danger
4. child conceived through rape


Anyway that is what most scholars agree on.
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Old 12th March 2005, 19:04
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salam alaikum, No I am not even thinking of aborting now as it is too late but problem is my ex husband tells me that I really should have had an abortion and is making my life even harder and that it would have been ok to do so b4 the 120 days, I disagree as I believe it is haram from day 1. I will definetely be taking him to family courts! jazakhallah khair. salam alaikum.
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Old 12th March 2005, 19:21
Ma_Li_Ka Ma_Li_Ka is offline
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WS Yasmeen

The dude probably does not want to pay childsupport. A reason more to make sure he pays untill your child is 18! I hate those kind of losers! They don't want any responsibility, pay for any consequences HHHHHH

Anyway, let him talk. Don't pay too much attention what he has to say. You are preparing for your child to be born into this world inshAllah. He is your ex-husband, so he can't tell you jack . And indeed he is telling nonsense to wipe his conscience clean. Debrassho! As we would say.

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Old 12th March 2005, 19:38
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problem is my ex husband tells me that I really should have had an abortion and is making my life even harder and that it would have been ok to do so b4 the 120 days, I disagree as I believe it is haram from day 1. I will definetely be taking him to family courts! jazakhallah khair. salam alaikum.
I'm pleased you didn't listen to his nonsense and abort your child. Inshallah you will support your child & all will be well. You have persevered through what must have been a difficult time & Allah rewards our patience/sabr.

As for your ex-husband you go ahead & fleece him. Claim whatever you can AND THEN some You did not make the baby by yourself. Even if he doesn't want contact, he's obliged to help you with costs of raising your child. Like Malika said - ignore him
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