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Old 10th December 2004, 20:21
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If salah is not performed on time is it still accepted? Performing them when you are home for example in one go, is anyone aware of any hadith on the matter.

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Old 11th December 2004, 00:34
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Salam sister

i am having the same problem and went seaking advice and was told by too many scholars the same answer. I am going to do something about it aswell inshallah.
it must be done on time unless there are reasons which are valid and apparently work is not an excuse because it takes ~~6 minutes to perform a prayer and as long as you have done wuduh then you can perform it wherever you are. and Allah knows best. if prayer is not done on time is it valid? yes of course it is because a prayer is the meeting between Allah(SWT) and the individual and only Allah knows what goes on .
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/eng...FatwaID=116607
Every scholar you speak to wll say that Prayers must be made on time because our prophet(SWT) said follow the way I do the prayers because that's how the Angel Gabriel was teaching him. that's how they based ther rullings.
Now the problem is as far as i now and Allah Knows best that they are 3 prayers that are very important
Fajr and asr and isha
before sunrise is the farj you do not have to follow the exact time.
asr must be made before mughrab sunset and isha can be delayed after food.
When praying in mosque you get 27 hassana and when praying Fajr and Isha in Mosque or jammaha all your sins are forgiven. praying farj on time in jammaha is the same as praying all day and praying isha in mosque or jammaha is the same as praying 2/3 of the night.

in this day and age its very dificult to do all the five prayers on time but there are no excuses see:
http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=9839
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...QR=20960&dgn=4
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"The Prayer becomes unlawful and invalid in the following five times:

1. from sunrise until the sun is a spear's length above the horizon (meaning when a distance equal to the sun's diameter appears between the sun and the horizon),

2. from the time the sun is at its highest point in the sky until it moves on,

3. from the time when the sun yellows before sunset until after it has set,

4. after praying the current Dawn Prayer (Subh), and

5. after praying the current Afternoon Prayer (`Asr).
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It is permissible at the above times to offer non-obligatory Prayers that are performed for a particular reason, such as the funeral prayer, greeting the mosque, or the two Rak`as that are Sunnah after ablution (Wudu'); and is also permissible to make up missed Prayers.

It is not offensive to pray within the Sacred Precinct (Haram) in Makkah at any time, i.e. the above rule doesn’t apply to Prayer within the Haram, nor is it offensive to pray when the sun is at its zenith on Fridays (whether in the Sacred Precinct or elsewhere).” þ

allah knows best
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Old 11th December 2004, 17:19
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Thanks you Tihad for that, very useful. As you said Allah SWT knows best. I definetly believe that it is inexcusable to miss fajr and ishaa as those are outside the standard working day but even then those can be difficult at times.

I also understand that when perfroming Salat Fajr if you say ameen the same time as the angels then all your past sins are forgiven.


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Old 11th December 2004, 19:24
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Salam Sista - most shayoukh say that it is inexcusable to delay your salah, unless you have the most pressing reason you can't perform it. I don't have any daleel to hand on this subject but it is one that is extremely important. Allahu allam
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Old 11th December 2004, 21:52
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salam sista

Here is the haddiths for proof you may need glasses sis the fonts are very small and in blue Allah knows best why?
http://www.islamic.pwp.blueyonder.co...f_fajr_asr.htm
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Old 12th December 2004, 18:13
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Salam nadia and tihad

This has raised another interesting question for me. Upon reading the hadith you posted it suggests that by performing all obligatory prayers on time you will escape the hell fire, thus be admitted to heaven. Something i find hard to comprehend is the relation between your actions and final destiny. A muslims actions are defined by many events, some good some not so good to the extent that you could be sent to hell. Allah knows best but at what point does the committed offering of salah outweigh negative actions? I also realise that as a muslim all actions should be undertaking with the aim to please Allah SWT.
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Old 12th December 2004, 20:44
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Salam nadia and tihad

This has raised another interesting question for me. Upon reading the hadith you posted it suggests that by performing all obligatory prayers on time you will escape the hell fire, thus be admitted to heaven. Something i find hard to comprehend is the relation between your actions and final destiny. A muslims actions are defined by many events, some good some not so good to the extent that you could be sent to hell. Allah knows best but at what point does the committed offering of salah outweigh negative actions? I also realise that as a muslim all actions should be undertaking with the aim to please Allah SWT.
Salam
My understanding is that:
A man is born to commit sins there is no escapism in that matter, little sins are automatically forgiven everyday as long as they are not done on purpose. the majors sins are the problem and the prayers are the cure. if done properly all sins can be arazed and new ones created till death do us apart.
Regading hell:
Anyone who is muslim will enter heaven one day when? Allah knows best some may spend one day in hell others may spend years and the matter is up to Him(SWT) not even a prophet unless told so or Angel can tell because that is written in a book with Allah(SWT) for us.
What we are wishing for is automatic heaven and as long as we pray all sins will be azared because Allah(SWT) said so.
what may lead us to hell is the many sins and if there are more than good deeds then you are in trouble.
Proof?
check haddith al qudsi for the one below
'Allah made a man enter heaven because he felt so bad about his sins that he ordered his children to burn him when he died(this is against Islam)and throw his ashes everywhere and because he told Allah(SWT) that he was so scared to meet him in that state Allah(SWT) accepted his repentence.'
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haddith 1571 bukhari and muslim
sura 11:114
haddith 1580 when a man asked for the death penalty to be actioned on himself because of his sins and our prophet(pbuh) said were you present in our prayers? he replied yes and Mohammed(pbuh) said then you have been pardoned.
basically
Good deeds cancel out evil ones. prayer cancels everything.
remember the main 2 messages are worship God and try to do good deeds.
when one goes to heaven he will not have the same status as others example
subject A may be in heaven no:1 and his loved one in heaven n:2 and still be able to meet each others but subject A may not have all what subject 2 has. just like on earth a rich man can go anywhere with his money and enjoy the same fun with poor but when he goes home he does not share his wealth with the poor one
all because of good deeds
and Allah knows best
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