Salafi Muslims...

[Khalidz]

Salam Sis..hope all is well inshallah

What tihad and nads described is what all muslims should strive to do no? Not just salafi...

I stil dont see the difference of why muslims call themselves 'Salafi' and not just normal muslims...
If you are going to be more stricter in islam why be called a name for it? why dont you just be more stricter for yourself and Allah(swt) and live our life like that...but Allah knows best...
The only difference i see is that salafi muslims are more stricter and thats it really...but no one has told me what kind of bidah they walk away from???


Salam khouya, I hope that you are well.

At the end of the day Nads and brother Tihad described the Salafi way of life beautifully!

What is a "normal" Sunni? I can't define that anymore to anyone. There are so many takes on what the correct way of life is these days that people are very confused. Their are many paths in Islam, and people will be judged on what they choose to do. I know that personally, I feel that in living with as little outside inference is best. People have reached the stage what when a prescript of the deen is mentioned to them, they say that this or that 'is only sunnah'. What is a Sunnah if it is not a way to be living our lives. It is said that we should look to the prophet SWS as a7san khalk and obide by the prescripts qur'an. If we do that, we cannot go far wrong.

Wa Salam [/b][/quote]

[-thetruth]

Salam Brov

To answer Your question you will need some 20 volumes
Let me make very short that;s my views and no one else
Sister LNDGirl explained it in one sentence.
how?
Have a copy of the Quran and Haddith and try as best as you can to follow what our Prophet(pbuh) used to say and do and that's salaf for you.
Why do they call themselves salaf and not sunnah
I hope i am not going to confuse you because our prophet(pbuh) used to answer things in a very simple way and we should try to be the same whenever we can.

I went to a salafi meeting and sobhana allah imame explained things so beautifully.
you have muslims and devoted muslims some are born muslims and never practiced islam, they use Allah's words in every evil act they practice...... others follow what allah said.
but are devided when facing few daily problem so they turn to humans who have opinions and depending on the Scholar they follow that fatwa.
sunnat tells us taht if a scholar is wrong he will get a hassana
if he is right he will get 10
those follow any fatwas will have nothing to fear wether it's right or wrong.
he went on by saying
that Our prophet(pbuh) draw a line and said that is my line stick to it and you win divert from it you will follow satan it;s like a leaf that has many lines each line is pulled by one shaytan and we have to be careful not to follow those lines but the man one.
bottom line is
if Allah and hs messenger ordered us to stay away from certain thngs then you do not need anyone to tell you otherwse.
Look at Morocco everywhere you will not find an islamic bank.
Look at their programs women dancing half naked and allah ordered us to lower our gaze
hijab etc.....
all these things are very important in a muslim;s life but many people try to tell us it's ok to be like the non muslim while Allah warned us to stay away from their teachings
didn't he say you have your religion and we have ours?.
My own opinion

[LDNgirl]

Assalamu alaikum.

Brother Khalid, if I were to sit here and list every bid3a that I'm aware of, it'll take all day, trust me.

I explained this on another forum a couple of months back. Basically, living in Western society, with it's influences, we, as Muslims, have had it instilled in us that we are free to do as we wish. Freedom of expression, living, family life, thought, conscience and religion are enshrined into the law. Living in such a society we feel that we have the right to have these freedoms in our religion as well. To best choose what we follow in the deen, and how rigidly we follow it. Hence the bid3a that I am talking about.

But is that the case in Islam? Yes there is no compulsion in religion. But then, there is daleel to show that this only applies to non-believers, and NOT Muslims. Look at the punishments that the Wahabi Saudi impose on people who do not obide by the deen. It is because once you are a Muslim, you follow it completely, there is choice in the matter. Salafi's are stricter Sunni's. This does not mean that they are different or a sect of Islam. It is just a way to describe them as people who follow As salaf as salih. Many people live their lives as Salafis do, and have not even heard of the term before.

At the end of the day, Muslims all need to follow the deen as best they can. There should be no excuses. I can go and list all the people I know to call themselves Muslims, but fail to follow even a quarter of the deen. But then I would have to add myself to that list! We all have faults and weaknesses, but at the end of the day Islam is progressive, and should be taken one step at a time... as long as we realise that there is always room for improvement.

[Khalidz]

Salam All,

Thank you guys for your responses...

Basicly, Salafi muslims are stricter muslims, thats what i was getting at...
Im just confused at all the names of muslims are coming out with, Shia, Salafi, Wahabi and I know there are many more i think...from an outside point of view, e.g non muslims, when they see how islam is divided now, I really cannot remember since being born, that i have ever heard of a different muslim sects/names...apart from Shia now, mayb its my lack of Islamic knowledge, but even bak home in morocco, ive never really heard of other sects, apart from muslims in morocco Sunniyeen e.g more stricter muslims, and thats what salafi is in morocco dunno...

End of the day Islam is very clear and we should all know the difference between right and wrong in islam...
Bida3 is all around us, esp in the west, and we all should be able to deal with it as again we are muslims hamdulilah and we know what is permitted and what is not...

Allah knows best...

[-thetruth]

Salam khalid
I try to explain different madhabs

Before i do that let us remember the main order from Allah(SWT)
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching."
Quran 16:125

This applies to anyone who wish to learn. those who are misguided by Satan and do not want to learn will not see the truth without Allah's guidance and Allah is the wise.
Before we go further bear in mind that:
The word Islam derives from the same semitic root as the Hebrew word Shalom, which means peace. Islam means "entering into a condition of peace and security with God, through allegiance or surrender to him".
When our prophet(SAWS) died people faced new challenges and needed help with new issues so what happened?
Before When a prophet is asked a question he would consult Allah(SWT) through Gabriel(pbuh) and a fatwa is then given and recorded. you would see that in the Torah=Law=shai'a
and in the Sunnah(mohammed(pbuh) teachings. Islam is no different from old books because Allah sent a law to all mankind and nothing is new unless it comes from Quran. because Mohammed completes a succession of prophets, including Abraham, Moses and Jesus, each of whom refined and restated the message of God. The Koran therefore corroborates, updates and expands the Old and New Testaments. It contains 114 chapters, written in vivid, rhyming prose, and was settled in its current form within 30 years of Mohammed's death.

But what happened if no prophet is there to help us? then comes Ijtihad which is basically scholars who know the law and do their research and come up with a fatwa. here is a problem. depending what person is telling the fatwa((legal opinion), it can be based on haddith or based on common sence. that's how madhabs were invented. and Allah knows best.
Madhbs are

The Schools of Islamic Law we have are The Four Sunni Madhabs:
Hanifi Maliki Shafi Hanbali
without writing the whole story about the four schools. basically what we must know is that each schools give Fatwas regarding their understanding of the sunnah and the Quran and each one of them is right and Allah told us that he is the judge and he will judge between us on the day of Qiyama so he who gave a fatwa and believed to be true allah will reward him greatly and he who knowingly mislead people will get what he earned and that goes for the people of the book as well.
each fatwa will be made using facts from either the quran or sunnah or both. and the choice is up to the questioner.
For instance i personally belief that Insurance of any form is haram and am 100% convinced that is the case because the facts given to me make me feel it is right others may disagree with me so who is right? Only Allah knows best i have a choice and i make that decision myself.

then we have Shei'a who have used different ways of following Islam and it's not up to anyone to judge their believes they think that the only way to God is through:
The Holy Quran,
Logical reasoning,
The traditions that have been narrated by BOTH reliable Sunni and Shia sources. This itself indicates that such traditions are frequent (Mutawatir) which have been even narrated by the rival authorities
and they say that Ahlul-Bayt (People of the House) are their main source of understanding the interpretation of Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH&HF)
and they have permitted themselves to practice Mut'a(temporary marriage) which we Sunnis have made illegal.

In conclusion all madhabs do not contradict themselves in anyway at all because the basic of worshipping in Islam have never changed and will never do so and that is:
the five pillars of Islam. because God has protected any alteration and it is the same as it was 1400 years ago.

Oh Allah! I seek Your guidance by virtue of Your knowledge, and I seek ability by virtue of Your power, and I ask You of Your great bounty. You have power; I have none. And You know; I know not. You are the Knower of hidden things.
Amen

[Khalidz]

So Tihad,

Thanks bro for the info...Allah y hdeena wa safi a khay dyalie... Ameen.

Allah knows best...

[_nadia_]

Salam Khalid!

Brother Tihad & sister Zohra described things really well mashallah, but just to clarify, take shi'a away completely, as they are neither here nor there, lol. Salafi muslims call themselves that in reference to the fact that they strive to follow the practices of as-Salaf us-salih, the pious predecessors

Hope this helps inshallah...