fake racial hadith about Berbers

[Pac]

salaamu alaykum,

We all know that there are weak, discriminating ahadith about berbers. I'm just wondering if there are also weak racist hadith about some arabs?

[HOUDA-K]

Enlighten me.

[-thetruth]

Originally posted by Pac
salaamu alaykum,

We all know that there are weak, discriminating ahadith about berbers. I'm just wondering if there are also weak racist hadith about some arabs?

berbers were only known to Arabs in north Africa 600 years after the death our Prophet(pbuh). Are you sure you are talking about Haddiths not stories?
please clarify.

[Pac]

Check out this link:

http://www.tawiza.net/Tawiza90/Chakib.htm

[Garbouz]

Originally posted by -thetruth



berbers were only known to Arabs in north Africa 600 years after the death our Prophet(pbuh). Are you sure you are talking about Haddiths not stories?
please clarify.

600yrs..where did u get that from !?!! barabira were during the time of 3umar bnou khatab (radia allahou 3andou) and were in Jazira 3arabia (in Iraq) 2b exact...!!

[-thetruth]

Originally posted by Garbouz

600yrs..where did u get that from !?!! barabira were during the time of 3umar bnou khatab (radia allahou 3andou) and were in Jazira 3arabia (in Iraq) 2b exact...!!

Salam
I am talking about the North africans, didn't realise other berbers were in Iraq(???)at the time of Omar(RA)
Apparently history tells us that

There was a significant historical event at the first Arab invasion about 700 A.D. It was a female Berber leader named Kahina, who very successfully put up a fierce resistance to the Arab conquerors and even succeeded in driving them back, though in the end she was defeated and lost her life! Kahina led her life in the tradition of famous Amazon queens like Penthesilea.

[-thetruth]

Originally posted by Pac
Check out this link:

http://www.tawiza.net/Tawiza90/Chakib.htm

I read the link and can not tell because some are rare and some of them i never heard of therefore can not accept them without further searching. the only narations that are strong are those of bukhari and Muslim.
What i know is that:
Any haddith must have 3 elements in it:
Compenant of haddith
Chain of reporters
Matr (Text)
Taraf

each naration must be either
Qudsi (sacred)
continious
elevated
broken
perplexing
hanging
when reading a naration one must look out for the followings:
consecutive
Isolated
Famous
Rare strong
strange or forged
and never realy on
Denounced one or interpolated.strange forged.
it's a very hard task to follow and that's why we have the Bukhari and muslim who we follow as a correct source of sunnat