adoption??

Originally posted by _samira_
moroccanchica

sis that wasnt to u.. that last post was to simple!

I believe in God, but I don't believe in your craziness

[_samira_]

"The servants of the Almighty are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace." (25:63)

End of discussion. Wasalam simple.

[_samira_]

"Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allaah…" [al-Ahzaab 33:5].

"Whoever claims knowingly to belong to someone other than his father will be denied Paradise." (Reported by al-Bukhaari and Muslim, Fath, no. 3982). He also said: "Whoever claims to belong to someone other than his father, will be cursed by Allaah, the angels and all the people, and Allaah will not accept any deeds or excuses from him on the Day of Resurrection." (Reported by Muslim, may Allaah have mercy on him, in his Saheeh, no. 2433).

In his commentary on this hadeeth, al-Nawawi said: "This is clearly stating the emphatic prohibition of claiming to belong to anyone other than one's real father… because this involves ingratitude and a denial of the rights of inheritance, as well as cutting family ties and undutifulness to parents." (al-Nawawi's statement ends). It also involves not carrying out the rules of inheritance, and ignoring the prohibited degrees of marriage to women [i.e. a man may unknowingly marry someone he is not permitted to, such as a sister, when true origins are concealed by not calling a child after his real father - translator's note], etc.

It was the above evidence that made me question this matter... so I don't think you have any reason to call me ridiculous moroccanchica

[moroccanchica]

Salam sis

Sadly i still disagree!!!

No offence but your post didnt really answer the question! Let me ask you something....whould you hijab afront of your grandson? Nephew (maybe so, i think.)?

i still disagree. Until you bring me the hadeeth or verse in the quaran where it actuallt states this, then i rest my case. Furthermore i can bring you many to say that you should treat adopted children the same as your own. The means not to hijabb i would have thought.

Kind regards
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[_samira_]

Asalamu alaikum.

Subhanallah. I didn't post that ayah and hadith to prove that it is fardh to wear hijab infront of an adopted son! That was my original question, what would be the point in posting a question I already knew the answer to?

The ayah and hadith was to show that there is a clear difference between an adopted child and your own in Islam and that it is not Islamically acceptable to claim an adopted child as your own. Moroccanchica, this is the evidence that I have come across re: adoption. When I was talking about treating them as your own, I meant changing their names, hiding the fact they are adopted etc, etc... *not* treating them with any less love or sincerity that you would treat your own kids with.

I asked this question because there are certain Muslim scholars which have said that you *do* have to wear hijab infront of an adopted son... but obviously that would be quite hard to do if you have brought them up from a very young age. So I was wondering if there would be a difference of opinion between scholars in this issue?

Please do bring me some (sahih) evidence that says you dont have to observe hijab infront of them, that was my question.

Finally, whether or not I wear hijab infront of my nephews (or grandsons inshallah), is irrelevant. Grandsons and nephews are your mahram, while adopted children are not (unless they have been breastfed).

Asalamu alaikum.

[moroccanchica]

I will inshallah, right now im VERY busy wid uni. I would appreciate it if u got the verse where u thought this was true too

[moroccanchica]

Yah habiba-

The story of Zaid in the quaran (swt)...............it agrees of what i said. Just thought id giv u somethin to research while i post more later. Im so busy wid uni.........its nearly done so i should get my verses to back up what is said xxxxxxxxxxx