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Old 8th May 2004, 21:44
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Just because you are Arabic, or just because you claim to be Muslim and just because you die fighting, it does not mean you are Mojahid. And most importantly, it does not mean you are going to heaven nor you are guaranteed the 173 Virgins
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Old 8th May 2004, 22:09
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I agree with you Simple, who are we to judge who goes to heaven or not? it is up to God almighty, we defintely can not in no way what so ever speak on the almightys behalf.

However in the sayings(Hadith) of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, he guides and tells us what is classifed as an martyr. Also in his sayings he warns us not to say "this person is going to hell or this person is going to heaven" as we do not know. (I cant remember the exact Hadiths, but defintely remember reading them, ill try finding them)

Simple just out of curiosity what made you make that statement?
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Old 8th May 2004, 22:17
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Never_Plead_Ignorance, lately I am hearing more thatn ever everytime an Arabic/Muslim dies in Iraq, Palestine or other places around the world, people refer to him/her as Mojahid. I personally don't believe that suicide bombers are mojahidine. Mojahidine as I understand it don't kill themselves nor kill inoncent people.
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Old 9th May 2004, 12:27
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Your right, a true Mojahid dont and should not kill innocent people. Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, told us that during war not to hurt the elderly, the woman, and the children. During war we should only kill people we are at war with(EG, Military).

We are judged on our intentions so maybe those who carry out the killings do not intend to kill innocent people but those innocent lives taken happen to get in the way? Allah knows best.

Hamas themselves claim to only kill those in the military and spys etc. With the Palestine issue its a heavy debate amongst Muslims some are against it some are for it.

In my opinon suicide bombings is a contradiction, sucicide is strictly forbidden in Islam. I personally dont see how killing yourself is going to get you to heaven especially if you kill innocent people.


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Old 9th May 2004, 16:31
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so they have the right to kill innocent people and call themselves freedom fighters !!?
and they can rape and abuse their wives while witnessing that unhuman way!!?
so you have not agreed that a myrther can be a mojahid!
and what can he offer best than himself for a real freedom!
youur ****xxx jamiia arrabiyah !!
is jogging off the rape photos as well as kuwaitis and saoudis who welcomes womens no men ...!!??
so you have sympathy for the enemy but you realise not that the enemy will only shake his head if you are next !!
and he will execute you as well !!!
let me say it loud
DAAMY MOTHER FUCCKERRR ARAB MUSSLIM WORLD
MAY ALLAH DO SOMETYHING ABOUT US ALL!!
now say somethinggg you dammp fooools
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Old 10th May 2004, 05:25
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If your refering to me than no ofcourse i have no sympathy for the ENEMY but i do have sympathy for the INNOCENT people killed.

And next time you choose to message me please do so in a manner where you can construct atleast two sentences together that make sence, and also without the use of swearing.

Take care and Selam (Peace)

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Old 10th May 2004, 12:09
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If your refering to me than no ofcourse i have no sympathy for the ENEMY but i do have sympathy for the INNOCENT people killed.

And next time you choose to message me please do so in a manner where you can construct atleast two sentences together that make sence, and also without the use of swearing.

Take care and Selam (Peace)

MANNERS ??!what manners !!
you have the worst manners and yet your ego did not allow you to see the truth with open eyes !!fellow!
that tone is what we need !!!but based on truth no bias!
plus how is you to give fatwa and you no justifications!!
or hadith !!
please !!! i'll swear on the injustice if i see it right to do!!
how about that!! !
plus next toime you wanna reply to me use your brain
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