Mojahidine

Garbouz you had to go dig that far

any way I meant Mujahid and not Shaheed
for more info, read this:

What is the meaning of Jihad (Mujahidine)?
Literally, jihad means doing one’s utmost to realize a goal. It is not the equivalent of war, for which Arabic and the Qur’an use qital. Jihad has a wider connotation and embraces every kind of striving in God’s cause. A mujahid is devoted to his or her cause; uses all physical, intellectual, and spiritual capacities to serve it; employs whatever force he or she can when confronting that which blocks his or her way; and, when necessary, dies for it dies for it dies for it dies for it dies for it dies for it got it Garbouz?. All of this is jihad, for it involves striving with the goals of obtaining God’s good pleasure and making His Word supreme.

[Garbouz]

LOL but read this part of ur post brov : "just because you claim to be Muslim and just because you die fighting, it does not mean you are Mojahid"

of course he's Mujahid if he's fighting for his cause but he might not be Sha7id if he died tho

You know was well as i know Im right and i made sense im my previous post too

Originally posted by Garbouz
LOL but read this part of ur post brov : "just because you claim to be Muslim and just because you die fighting, it does not mean you are Mojahid"

of course he's Mujahid if he's fighting for his cause but he might not be Sha7id if he died tho

You know was well as i know Im right and i made sense im my previous post too

I see what you mean now you are correct and I am wrong. I did not read it carefully but I know what I meant so yes if so called Mojahid dies it does not mean he is shaheed. I can't be right all the time, I am also human bro.

[Garbouz]

Originally posted by simple-


I see what you mean now you are correct and I am wrong. I did not read it carefully but I know what I meant so yes if so called Mojahid dies it does not mean he is shaheed. I can't be right all the time, I am also human bro.

Oh we all make mistakes brov n it's all good Ur reply shows some class too

[Hattushil]

It seems you have nothing to say about the topic since you attemt personal attack...It is not nice,not "islamic"...

Originally posted by mbelafkih



i got news for you ,

brains can see through the clouds
but the clouds cannot see through
the brains

I got news for you too,you tried to say something deep and meaningfull but unfortunatelly,it is just a nonsence (this "the clouds cannot see through the brains" thing is extremelly funny though)...

Let me tell you something meaningfull...

If you mean to wipe off al the rust that covers the hearts,
Be sure to utter this word which is life's true summary;


The man who doesn't see the nations of worlds as one
Is a rebel even if the pious claim he's holy.


Listen to my comment on the strictures of the canon:
Orthodox faith is a ship, its sea is Reality.


No matter how impregnable are the planks of the ship,
They are bound to crack and shatter when waves rage
in that sea.


Listen, my loved one, let me give you a fact beyond this:
The rebel against Truth is the saint of orthodoxy.

allah supports whom he deems righteous
hiding behind the shadows ?
you mean like you pretending to be a muslim

Oh...I know,i know...Nobody is muslim except the ones who follow your way and nothing is the truth except the one that you beleive...

I don't know who is righteous or who is not,the things are not so black and white for me but what i know is that whoever kills an innocent person such as a child in the street is neither righteous nor a "mojahid" but just a "murderer" regardless his/her religion....No matter,even if they "pretend to be muslims",no matter what you call them....This is not "fighting against the aggressor" but it is rather "terror"...

Any way,If you wanna argue about a topic,do it just in a civilised manner,you are not the one who to decide who is muslim who is not...This is the first lesson you have to learn before "pretending to be a muslim"...

[-thetruth]

Salam

When a person is put in front of Allah(SWT) his race religion colour are useless. His actions are the cause of him being standing and answering to the accusations . Allah is most fair and never accuse anyone except if clear facts are presented he who knows what we are about to say and do.
Just because a person hates God does not mean we have to go around killing him. we must have a clear reason
To me and this is not Islam but merely my understandings.
if a person kills my family and destroy my house i live in and leaves me in a refugee camp he has then committed a crime and if i kill him That is justice, however how do I ckill him is the problem?. do I use a law religion or my own revenge? thats what determine my judgement. God's judgement is pure so if I follow God then i have done a pure job.
If i am standing in a battle ground and face the enemy and kill him or them that is liberation but by doing so and harming others ie innocents that is pure murder because it has an element of discrimination hence run around with a bomb strapped on my back and kill myself and others is total terror because :
1- I decide to end a life and try to ease my pains which are a test . that is against God's will.
2- I kill innocent peoples who are powerless that is muder.
3- Instead of taken a peaceful means to resolve the issue i take the easy way that is cowardness.



I tell you what the Muslims scholars used to say at many introductions.
AN imam used to lead people to God and one day he heard them heading toward a tree that apparently gave them their wishes so he was very angry and decided to chop the tree down. on his way there he was stoped by Satan in a form of human he said to him:
" wher are you going?"
the Imam" to chop that tree by God will I will"
Satan said " trust me you will not be able to"
the Imam fought him and won and many occasions
Satan then said" HOLD IT i have a solution"
"If you go and do what you intended. do you think those people who feed you and clothe you would allow anyone to touch their sacret tree without doing anything?"
the Imam said " umm maybe not but I will"
Satan said " how about trying this?"
" try to speak to them wisely and do not take their money or clothes for the next few weeks and then you can go ahead that way they can not starve you and i will give you money eveyweek to keep you going"
The Imam said" Good idea I like that"
so the first week he found money under his pillow and was happy
the second week he found 3/4 of that money and was less happy etc.. untill oneday he recieved nothing and went out toward that tree and met Satan again and Satan said to him
" where are you going?"
he repeated the same thing but this time when fighting satan he lost and he became very angry and was wondering why he lost?
Satan said " you see?? what you did the first time was for God and he gave you power and you could have done the job easilly because i was very weak. Now you have done it for your own interest because you run out of money that's why and you follow me Satan who is a liar therefore you have lost and I won"

Mojahid is a man who dies for God not dying to liberate a land. by killing innocents

And Allah knows best.