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Old 13th July 2010, 15:49
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Why do not all see God?

Why do not all see God?

Nobody sees God. God is not touched even by imagination. How can we see God? God enters some medium and becomes visible through that medium (through Lord in human form or Son of God). Through that medium also you are experiencing only the existence God. Only experience of existence is possible. There is no way to see God directly. The current cannot be seen directly. When it flows in a wire only its existence can be experienced.

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Old 14th July 2010, 08:45
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Allah(God) is everywhere in hour heart in our breathing in air. You can see Allah(God) everywhere... how else we came into existence. This is all done by Allah(God).
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Old 14th July 2010, 12:39
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Allah comes in human form in every generation

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Allah(God) is everywhere in hour heart in our breathing in air. You can see Allah(God) everywhere... how else we came into existence. This is all done by Allah(God).
Allah is neither every where nor Allah is awareness; Allah is unimaginable


We have to cross both the arguments of Allah being every where and Allah being awareness. With the help of scripture, we have to reach the goal, which is unimaginable Allah .

We are denying the two arguments viz., the argument of awareness being Allah and the argument of the all pervading Allah . We are establishing the argument of unimaginable nature of Allah . The above two arguments are like deep pits existing side by side and we have to travel in the narrow path existing between these two pits to reach the goal of unimaginable nature of Allah .

Since awareness is the specific work of inert energy in the functioning nervous system and the concept of all pervading Allah does not require the need of any spiritual effort as every one is Allah , the above two pits are to be avoided. These two arguments can be denied by the scripture also. Veda says that Allah is the controller of souls (Atmesvaram…) and this denies that Allah is soul or awareness. Veda also says that nothing and none in this creation is Allah (Neti Neti…) and this denies that Allah is every where in this world. There are several Vedic statements speaking that Allah is unimaginable and even Gita says that no body knows Allah . Like this, we have to escape the danger of falling in the above two pits and reach the true goal of the unimaginable nature of Allah .
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Old 19th July 2010, 07:54
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I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
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Old 19th July 2010, 13:36
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I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
Allah is every where in an unimaginable way. Allah cannot be defined by spatial dimensions and His existence is different from existence of worldly items. He is every where not in worldly sense. In an unimaginable way He is every where. That do not mean that GOd is in every thing. God is everywhere in a way which cannot be measurable.

But God is in the human incarnation. God exists in the present human incarnation who is alive in this world. The identity mark for this is that He preaches wonderful divine knowledge. True divine knowledge is the proof that God is in human form.

God do not exists in worldly things like hill etc. If GOD existed in them then they would have preached divine knowledge to us. God exists alone with awareness only. Means God only exists in living human beings. Since it is beneficial for all the people in the world so that they can listen the preaching of human incarnation of GOd.

God exists in human incarnation who has come to this world now.
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Old 19th July 2010, 15:53
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I agree that Allah is unimaginable because we have not seen Him. But you are wrong, Allah is everywhere giving us light from sun, giving us water of sea(which is not drinkable) in shape of rivers(drinkable water), Gives us food from earth and he has created animals so that the can help us grow our food. Everything in this world is balanced because of Allah. The way we abuse this Earth Given to us by Allah, i think would have destroyed years ago. But this is only running because of Allah.

We use so much fuel on daily bases and it takes years for thinks to decompose and convert into fuel. We use so much fuel that it would have dried out by now from earth. But still we can find fuel, this is the power of good that He knows everything and He can create anything from nothing.
Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

Yes, Allah is the source of everything. But Allah is only in human incarnation. Allah has not pervaded all the universe. Allah created this universe for HIs own entertainment. If Allah and universe are one and the same How Allah can get entertainment by seeing the universe? Hence Allah has not pervaded the universe. But He enters into the universe in Human form so that we can see Him, talk to Him, touch Him and co-live with Him and more importanly Allah can now preach us and talk to us in a most natural way.

Allah is not peravding the entire universe. Allah is the base of this universe. Allah created this universe. Allah has not pervaded the universe. Creation and creator are different. Allah enters into the universe by entering His most deserving devotee known as Son of God for preaching divine knowledge. THe combination of Son of God and God is known as Human incarnation. Human incarnation is a 2-in-1 system in which Son of God and Allah exists in the same human body. It is like current in a live wire.

Allah comes in human form so that we can approach Him without any tension and fear and clarify all our doubts.
Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

If God is the creation itself, again God becomes alone and cannot have any entertainment. For entertainment only, He wanted a second item, which must be different from Him (Sadviteeyamaichchat). The support is quite different from the supported item. You cannot say that both are one and the same. Entertainment is of two types. In the first type, you see the drama from outside. In the second type, you enter the drama in a role and entertain yourself. While acting in a role, you are also seeing the entire drama. If you are the single actor and become everything in the drama, you cannot have any entertainment. If you become everything, there is no possibility of entering the drama. Veda says that God entered the creation (Tat Srustva Tadevaanu Praavishat).
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Old 20th July 2010, 12:45
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Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment

Yes, Allah is the source of everything. But Allah is only in human incarnation. Allah has not pervaded all the universe. Allah created this universe for HIs own entertainment. If Allah and universe are one and the same How Allah can get entertainment by seeing the universe? Hence Allah has not pervaded the universe. But He enters into the universe in Human form so that we can see Him, talk to Him, touch Him and co-live with Him and more importantly Allah can now preach us and talk to us in a most natural way.
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Have you meet Allah in Human form??? Only one Person has seen Allah For Whom this universe is created. not a single angel has seen Allah. And Allah is everywhere means that Allah know everything in the universe Allah is aware of every human living in this world and Allah knows Every thing in our mind no matter how hard we try to hide it. Allah knows when and how we have done sins and on the day of judgment every sin will be revealed in front of everyone and you wont be able to hide it.
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